Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@nixCraft is this real?

[penguintrinity@social.tchncs.de]

@agowa338
Thats basically legislator's and attorney generals seeking to control human behaviour. The #butthechildren argument is just a skape goat to implement the necessary legislature to collect the necessary data.

Its always a question of data, legislation, cost and time.

This is the cost-effective way of collecting the necessary data in a relatively short amount of time. Later its just a question of extending the legislation.
@nixCraft

[knapjack@snac.gruntle.cc]

@nixCraft@mastodon.social Looks like: https://natlawreview.com/article/california-introduces-new-age-verification-requirements-software-applications

[mxalba@blahaj.zone]

@nixCraft@mastodon.social

Actually, I think this provides a nice little loophole.

The states in question oblige vendors to implement ID checks in their product. They don't oblige users to use an OS that has built-in ID check...

So with this move, a resident of these states who downloads and installs MidnightBSD is not breaking their state's laws, they're only breaking MidnightBSD's Ts&Cs. And MidnightBSD isn't breaking those states' laws either, because it specifically excluded use in those states in their Ts&Cs.

[gvenema@fairmove.net]

@_elena @nixCraft

Yep. It is real.

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/california-introduces-age-verification-law

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@knapjack

[luca@sironi.xyz]

@_elena @nixCraft

Theoretically yes, that's exactly what that stupid California law says.

Windows, macOS, Linux—all operating systems.

It'll be interesting to see how they think this could ever be implemented in practice.

After smartphones, they're trying to screw up computers too.

Better to take care of our hardware

[gwentlarry@mastodon.social]

@nixCraft

VPN?

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@luca Im shocked this is coming from California! Texas or Alabama or Georgia, ok, but California?!? Nothing more dystopian than this

[slayer256@social.vivaldi.net]

@nixCraft This will blow over like all the covid laws and be deemed unlawful sooner rather than later if no one just jumps on board. Use a virtual machine to access social if you use em. For anything open source any programmer worth a lil salt can setup a fake age system and we all know kids learn fast

[luca@sironi.xyz]

@_elena

I have an idea to protect kids too.
You must prove your age to use the microwave oven, that's a dangerous tool

(Grazie commodore 64, ti ho voluto bene)

[gvenema@fairmove.net]

@_elena @nixCraft

And this is going to get progressively worse. "Democratic" governments the world over, who are rapidly losing the confidence of their populations, are discovering age-gating as the dreamed of prybar to insert authoritarian control into every nook and cranny of all the devices and networks we use to communicate with each other.

Because, think of the kids! Yeah, well, if you really want to think about kids then maybe the world's adults should make some better life decisions.

[agowa338@chaos.social]

@penguintrinity @nixCraft

We know, you're preaching to the choir.

[aligorith@mastodon.nz]

@MxAlba @nixCraft
Even more tangential reading:
The legal notice on the download page serves as the age gate: "Do not download if you're a Valley Kid"

[hnapel@mastodon.social]

@nixCraft

Bad, the progressive nature of California has overreacted, the 'protect the children' gang had a win, but it will be for the worse. How is Mila?

[mdfffcom@mastodon.social]

@nixCraft omg what does it have to do with installing OS

[trimtab@mastodon.social]

@nixCraft
It isn't age verification garbage by some dummy politicians.

It is an evil scam to further normalize privacy erosions, entrench established power and complete the authoritarian controls of the corporate serfdom system we call a government.

Know your enemy. They are far more organized and focused on power than anyone gives them credit for.

[stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social]

@nixCraft just wait a few years and that will be everywhere. Age verification (which is almost certainly coming, globally) might just push non-corporate-sponsored OSes out of the market entirely

[raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@nixCraft It's crazy how many terrible laws managed to quickly sneak through the system while everyone was getting shot at and protesting. Here in MN they also snuck in opening up mining in state parks and BWCA while half our population was literally choking on tear gas and out on the streets.

[raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@_elena @luca I'm not, Silicon Valley has loads of money for lobbying, this is straight up a gift to them they pushed through while there was so much going on nobody would be looking. CA (especially LA county) may be pretty left leaning but the leadership is pretty much always centrist/corporatist dem, companies like Disney/Google/Apple/etc pretty much always get what they ask for. The only reason texas didn't do it first is because the companies that will make money from this aren't HQ there