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Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    @nixCraft is this real? 😳😱

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    #28

    @_elena @nixCraft

    Theoretically yes, that's exactly what that stupid California law says.

    Windows, macOS, Linux—all operating systems.

    It'll be interesting to see how they think this could ever be implemented in practice.

    After smartphones, they're trying to screw up computers too.

    Better to take care of our hardware

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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      #29

      @nixCraft

      VPN?

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      • luca@sironi.xyzL luca@sironi.xyz

        @_elena @nixCraft

        Theoretically yes, that's exactly what that stupid California law says.

        Windows, macOS, Linux—all operating systems.

        It'll be interesting to see how they think this could ever be implemented in practice.

        After smartphones, they're trying to screw up computers too.

        Better to take care of our hardware

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        #30

        @luca Im shocked this is coming from California! Texas or Alabama or Georgia, ok, but California?!? Nothing more dystopian than this

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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          #31

          @nixCraft This will blow over like all the covid laws and be deemed unlawful sooner rather than later if no one just jumps on board. Use a virtual machine to access social if you use em. For anything open source any programmer worth a lil salt can setup a fake age system and we all know kids learn fast

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            @luca Im shocked this is coming from California! Texas or Alabama or Georgia, ok, but California?!? Nothing more dystopian than this

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            #32

            @_elena

            I have an idea to protect kids too.
            You must prove your age to use the microwave oven, that's a dangerous tool

            (Grazie commodore 64, ti ho voluto bene)

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            • gvenema@fairmove.netG gvenema@fairmove.net

              @_elena @nixCraft

              Yep. It is real. 😞😞😞

              https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/california-introduces-age-verification-law

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              #33

              @_elena @nixCraft

              And this is going to get progressively worse. "Democratic" governments the world over, who are rapidly losing the confidence of their populations, are discovering age-gating as the dreamed of prybar to insert authoritarian control into every nook and cranny of all the devices and networks we use to communicate with each other.

              Because, think of the kids! Yeah, well, if you really want to think about kids then maybe the world's adults should make some better life decisions.

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              • penguintrinity@social.tchncs.deP penguintrinity@social.tchncs.de

                @agowa338
                Thats basically legislator's and attorney generals seeking to control human behaviour. The #butthechildren argument is just a skape goat to implement the necessary legislature to collect the necessary data.

                Its always a question of data, legislation, cost and time.

                This is the cost-effective way of collecting the necessary data in a relatively short amount of time. Later its just a question of extending the legislation.
                @nixCraft

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                #34

                @penguintrinity @nixCraft

                We know, you're preaching to the choir.

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                • mxalba@blahaj.zoneM mxalba@blahaj.zone

                  @nixCraft@mastodon.social

                  Actually, I think this provides a nice little loophole.

                  The states in question oblige vendors to implement ID checks in their product. They don't oblige users to use an OS that has built-in ID check...

                  So with this move, a resident of these states who downloads and installs MidnightBSD is not breaking their state's laws, they're only breaking MidnightBSD's Ts&Cs. And MidnightBSD isn't breaking those states' laws either, because it specifically excluded use in those states in their Ts&Cs.

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                  #35

                  @MxAlba @nixCraft
                  Even more tangential reading:
                  The legal notice on the download page serves as the age gate: "Do not download if you're a Valley Kid" 😜

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                    #36

                    @nixCraft

                    Bad, the progressive nature of California has overreacted, the 'protect the children' gang had a win, but it will be for the worse. How is Mila?

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                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                      Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                      #37

                      @nixCraft omg what does it have to do with installing OS

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                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                        Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                        #38

                        @nixCraft
                        It isn't age verification garbage by some dummy politicians.

                        It is an evil scam to further normalize privacy erosions, entrench established power and complete the authoritarian controls of the corporate serfdom system we call a government.

                        Know your enemy. They are far more organized and focused on power than anyone gives them credit for.

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                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                          Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                          #39

                          @nixCraft just wait a few years and that will be everywhere. Age verification (which is almost certainly coming, globally) might just push non-corporate-sponsored OSes out of the market entirely

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                            #40

                            @nixCraft It's crazy how many terrible laws managed to quickly sneak through the system while everyone was getting shot at and protesting. Here in MN they also snuck in opening up mining in state parks and BWCA while half our population was literally choking on tear gas and out on the streets.

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              @luca Im shocked this is coming from California! Texas or Alabama or Georgia, ok, but California?!? Nothing more dystopian than this

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                              #41

                              @_elena @luca I'm not, Silicon Valley has loads of money for lobbying, this is straight up a gift to them they pushed through while there was so much going on nobody would be looking. CA (especially LA county) may be pretty left leaning but the leadership is pretty much always centrist/corporatist dem, companies like Disney/Google/Apple/etc pretty much always get what they ask for. The only reason texas didn't do it first is because the companies that will make money from this aren't HQ there

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                              • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                @nixCraft just wait a few years and that will be everywhere. Age verification (which is almost certainly coming, globally) might just push non-corporate-sponsored OSes out of the market entirely

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                                #42

                                @stroughtonsmith Or maybe don’t just wait and do something against this instead. 🙃

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  @luca Im shocked this is coming from California! Texas or Alabama or Georgia, ok, but California?!? Nothing more dystopian than this

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                                  #43

                                  @_elena @luca Former POTUS Reagan came out of California, and he was the match that lit this fascist fire. California has a long history of right wing bullshit, which is why the Dead Kennedys wrote the song, California Uber Alles.
                                  #DumbAllOver

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    @nixCraft is this real? 😳😱

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                                    #44

                                    @_elena @nixCraft

                                    https://www.midnightbsd.org/download/

                                    Yes 😢

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                                    • freekymage@ieji.deF freekymage@ieji.de

                                      @nixCraft watched this video yesterday on how different distros are responding. https://youtu.be/bfj0wzclY0M

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                                      #45

                                      @freekymage @nixCraft
                                      How would "live" distros be affected? If the OS is running off of a flash drive, not installed, and no user account is created, are they exempt? If so, it blows a big hole in the effectiveness of this law. Little Billy can just boot off a flash drive and watch his p0rn.

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                                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                        Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                                        #46

                                        @nixCraft not saying this is ok of course, but haven't Cuban residents seen the same kind of thing for a long time? (Or any other places embargoed by the US)
                                        This is not a rhetorical question btw, I'm genuinely wondering.

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                                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                          Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                                          #47

                                          @nixCraft Living free on our planet, not other planet in our solar system.

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