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Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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  • gvenema@fairmove.netG gvenema@fairmove.net

    @_elena @nixCraft

    Yep. It is real. 😞😞😞

    https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/california-introduces-age-verification-law

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    #33

    @_elena @nixCraft

    And this is going to get progressively worse. "Democratic" governments the world over, who are rapidly losing the confidence of their populations, are discovering age-gating as the dreamed of prybar to insert authoritarian control into every nook and cranny of all the devices and networks we use to communicate with each other.

    Because, think of the kids! Yeah, well, if you really want to think about kids then maybe the world's adults should make some better life decisions.

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    • penguintrinity@social.tchncs.deP penguintrinity@social.tchncs.de

      @agowa338
      Thats basically legislator's and attorney generals seeking to control human behaviour. The #butthechildren argument is just a skape goat to implement the necessary legislature to collect the necessary data.

      Its always a question of data, legislation, cost and time.

      This is the cost-effective way of collecting the necessary data in a relatively short amount of time. Later its just a question of extending the legislation.
      @nixCraft

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      #34

      @penguintrinity @nixCraft

      We know, you're preaching to the choir.

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      • mxalba@blahaj.zoneM mxalba@blahaj.zone

        @nixCraft@mastodon.social

        Actually, I think this provides a nice little loophole.

        The states in question oblige vendors to implement ID checks in their product. They don't oblige users to use an OS that has built-in ID check...

        So with this move, a resident of these states who downloads and installs MidnightBSD is not breaking their state's laws, they're only breaking MidnightBSD's Ts&Cs. And MidnightBSD isn't breaking those states' laws either, because it specifically excluded use in those states in their Ts&Cs.

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        #35

        @MxAlba @nixCraft
        Even more tangential reading:
        The legal notice on the download page serves as the age gate: "Do not download if you're a Valley Kid" 😜

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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          #36

          @nixCraft

          Bad, the progressive nature of California has overreacted, the 'protect the children' gang had a win, but it will be for the worse. How is Mila?

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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            #37

            @nixCraft omg what does it have to do with installing OS

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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              #38

              @nixCraft
              It isn't age verification garbage by some dummy politicians.

              It is an evil scam to further normalize privacy erosions, entrench established power and complete the authoritarian controls of the corporate serfdom system we call a government.

              Know your enemy. They are far more organized and focused on power than anyone gives them credit for.

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                #39

                @nixCraft just wait a few years and that will be everywhere. Age verification (which is almost certainly coming, globally) might just push non-corporate-sponsored OSes out of the market entirely

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                  #40

                  @nixCraft It's crazy how many terrible laws managed to quickly sneak through the system while everyone was getting shot at and protesting. Here in MN they also snuck in opening up mining in state parks and BWCA while half our population was literally choking on tear gas and out on the streets.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    @luca Im shocked this is coming from California! Texas or Alabama or Georgia, ok, but California?!? Nothing more dystopian than this

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                    #41

                    @_elena @luca I'm not, Silicon Valley has loads of money for lobbying, this is straight up a gift to them they pushed through while there was so much going on nobody would be looking. CA (especially LA county) may be pretty left leaning but the leadership is pretty much always centrist/corporatist dem, companies like Disney/Google/Apple/etc pretty much always get what they ask for. The only reason texas didn't do it first is because the companies that will make money from this aren't HQ there

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                    • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                      @nixCraft just wait a few years and that will be everywhere. Age verification (which is almost certainly coming, globally) might just push non-corporate-sponsored OSes out of the market entirely

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                      #42

                      @stroughtonsmith Or maybe don’t just wait and do something against this instead. 🙃

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        @luca Im shocked this is coming from California! Texas or Alabama or Georgia, ok, but California?!? Nothing more dystopian than this

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                        #43

                        @_elena @luca Former POTUS Reagan came out of California, and he was the match that lit this fascist fire. California has a long history of right wing bullshit, which is why the Dead Kennedys wrote the song, California Uber Alles.
                        #DumbAllOver

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          @nixCraft is this real? 😳😱

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                          #44

                          @_elena @nixCraft

                          https://www.midnightbsd.org/download/

                          Yes 😢

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                          • freekymage@ieji.deF freekymage@ieji.de

                            @nixCraft watched this video yesterday on how different distros are responding. https://youtu.be/bfj0wzclY0M

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                            #45

                            @freekymage @nixCraft
                            How would "live" distros be affected? If the OS is running off of a flash drive, not installed, and no user account is created, are they exempt? If so, it blows a big hole in the effectiveness of this law. Little Billy can just boot off a flash drive and watch his p0rn.

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                              #46

                              @nixCraft not saying this is ok of course, but haven't Cuban residents seen the same kind of thing for a long time? (Or any other places embargoed by the US)
                              This is not a rhetorical question btw, I'm genuinely wondering.

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                              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                                #47

                                @nixCraft Living free on our planet, not other planet in our solar system.

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                                • bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB bolomkxxviii@mastodon.social

                                  @freekymage @nixCraft
                                  How would "live" distros be affected? If the OS is running off of a flash drive, not installed, and no user account is created, are they exempt? If so, it blows a big hole in the effectiveness of this law. Little Billy can just boot off a flash drive and watch his p0rn.

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                                  #48

                                  @BoloMKXXVIII @nixCraft that question is exactly why lawyers are getting involved. Don't forget that different places will have variations on this law, so even if your loophole works in 1 place it might not work in another.

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                                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                    Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                                    #49

                                    @nixCraft@mastodon.social is it that hard to just slam a “please tick this checkbox to confirm that you’re 18 or older” form?

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                                    • poulet_benoit@fosstodon.orgP poulet_benoit@fosstodon.org

                                      @nixCraft

                                      US people are so funny 😂

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                                      @poulet_benoit @nixCraft

                                      True, but the EU and UK are attempting to do the same bs. People in general are pretty stupid.

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                                      • knapjack@snac.gruntle.ccK knapjack@snac.gruntle.cc
                                        @nixCraft@mastodon.social Looks like: https://natlawreview.com/article/california-introduces-new-age-verification-requirements-software-applications
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                                        #51

                                        @knapjack @_elena @nixCraft

                                        And Newsom actually thinks he's going to be president in 2028, such a deluded fool.

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                                        • knapjack@snac.gruntle.ccK knapjack@snac.gruntle.cc
                                          @nixCraft@mastodon.social Looks like: https://natlawreview.com/article/california-introduces-new-age-verification-requirements-software-applications
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                                          #52

                                          @knapjack @_elena @nixCraft we are so fucked.

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