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  • erikjonker@mastodon.socialE erikjonker@mastodon.social

    Good to spread the word about the disinformation Trump is spreading about NATO-members not supporting the US.
    #USA #NATO #Trump #geopolitics @geopolitics

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    #29

    @ErikJonker @geopolitics Which country invoked article 5 for the first and only time in the history of NATO? Which countries reacted? All of them! But no, now NATO is a bigger threat than Russia and China.

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    • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

      @ErikJonker @geopolitics

      It would be interesting to break out how many were killed by US soldiers. I vaguely recall the first British casualties in the Gulf War being due to friendly fire from the US. Reports of deaths from friendly fire often make the news in these conflicts and it seems like it’s almost always the US who is responsible.

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      #30

      @david_chisnall @ErikJonker @geopolitics Yes, definitely.

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      • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

        @ErikJonker @geopolitics

        It would be interesting to break out how many were killed by US soldiers. I vaguely recall the first British casualties in the Gulf War being due to friendly fire from the US. Reports of deaths from friendly fire often make the news in these conflicts and it seems like it’s almost always the US who is responsible.

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        #31

        Scanning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_friendly_fire_incidents the majority of friendly fire casualties do appear to same-nation accidents, but I saw four cases of American air support firing on British or Canadian troops leading to 16 dead and 43 injured - plus one RAF Tornado shot down by US Patriot battery.
        @david_chisnall @ErikJonker @geopolitics

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        • erikjonker@mastodon.socialE erikjonker@mastodon.social

          Good to spread the word about the disinformation Trump is spreading about NATO-members not supporting the US.
          #USA #NATO #Trump #geopolitics @geopolitics

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          #32

          @ErikJonker He's demented, and says stupid, wrong shit all the time. He doesn't even know what he's saying most of the time. His brain is pudding.

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          • erikjonker@mastodon.socialE erikjonker@mastodon.social

            Good to spread the word about the disinformation Trump is spreading about NATO-members not supporting the US.
            #USA #NATO #Trump #geopolitics @geopolitics

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            #33

            @ErikJonker @geopolitics

            Never forget the sacrifices we made together.

            Thank you #NATO.

            It's always darkest before the dawn.

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            • erikjonker@mastodon.socialE erikjonker@mastodon.social

              Good to spread the word about the disinformation Trump is spreading about NATO-members not supporting the US.
              #USA #NATO #Trump #geopolitics @geopolitics

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              #34

              @ErikJonker @geopolitics What else would you expect from #Trump?

              Donald “Bone Spurs” Trump Thinks Americans Who Die in War Are “Suckers” and “Losers” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/donald-trump-losers-and-suckers #uspolitics #nato

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              • erikjonker@mastodon.socialE erikjonker@mastodon.social

                Good to spread the word about the disinformation Trump is spreading about NATO-members not supporting the US.
                #USA #NATO #Trump #geopolitics @geopolitics

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                #35

                @ErikJonker @geopolitics
                Notice how few of my countrymen are complaining about what Trump said.

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                • rob11563@mastodon.coffeeR rob11563@mastodon.coffee

                  @ErikJonker @geopolitics What else would you expect from #Trump?

                  Donald “Bone Spurs” Trump Thinks Americans Who Die in War Are “Suckers” and “Losers” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/donald-trump-losers-and-suckers #uspolitics #nato

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                  #36

                  @ErikJonker @geopolitics I always knew there were a lot of stupid people in this country. I just never realized just how many until he was elected the first time. #Trump #NATO #uspolitics

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                  • erikjonker@mastodon.socialE erikjonker@mastodon.social

                    Good to spread the word about the disinformation Trump is spreading about NATO-members not supporting the US.
                    #USA #NATO #Trump #geopolitics @geopolitics

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                    #37

                    @ErikJonker @geopolitics For the next plea of help the answer might be “Fuck off assholes.” 🤔

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                    • wackjackle@norden.socialW wackjackle@norden.social

                      @ErikJonker @geopolitics It's amazing how the vassals in the Pig Empire use that as an argument, how they actually achieved ‘NOTHING’ while destroying 4.5 million people.

                      Fuck me, I hate liberals so much.

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                      #38

                      @wackJackle @ErikJonker @geopolitics Could you clarify? Does that mean you hate everyone or just liberals in contrast to conservatives?

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                      • byrnensorg@mastodon.ieB byrnensorg@mastodon.ie

                        @ErikJonker @geopolitics@a.gup.pe Why do people still place stock in anything that comes out of his wordhole. So much energy goes into countering the lies and presenting the truth that the truth ends up looking like just an alternative narrative.

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                        #39

                        @byrnensorg @ErikJonker in the US, we are plagued with a high degree of easily manipulated STUPID RACIST. But I’d also ask for a relative comparison with humans around the world for a clearer picture. 🤔

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                        • oschonrock@mastodon.socialO oschonrock@mastodon.social

                          @ErikJonker @geopolitics

                          Just ignore the demented ape and become more autonomous.

                          The US is no longer an ally. They are a sufficiently dysfunctional country that they disqualify themselves.

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                          #40

                          @oschonrock @ErikJonker @geopolitics At this point you are right, the US should be considered an adversary, but don’t be super quick to burn all bridges, the US is still in flux, reversal is possible.
                          Humpty used to represent 40% (today maybe 20% plus Bs), but with a 50 year trend in deterioration, I’m not particularly hopeful, while still hoping for reversal, which still might involve a revolution or breakup of the States. Then all bets are off. 😳

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                          • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                            @ErikJonker He's demented, and says stupid, wrong shit all the time. He doesn't even know what he's saying most of the time. His brain is pudding.

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                            #41

                            @wesdym @ErikJonker That comes with being a mentally ill, evil moron with one skill, bringing out the selfish racist in other low level dummies. A prevalence of disenfranchised stupid and backing by co-conspirator Bs is the only reason Humpty has gotten this far. A good lesson to remember, as if it will save us at this point. 🤔

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                            • rob11563@mastodon.coffeeR rob11563@mastodon.coffee

                              @ErikJonker @geopolitics What else would you expect from #Trump?

                              Donald “Bone Spurs” Trump Thinks Americans Who Die in War Are “Suckers” and “Losers” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/donald-trump-losers-and-suckers #uspolitics #nato

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                              #42

                              @rob11563 @ErikJonker @geopolitics Yep, he’s a first class mental POS and it grieves me beyond measure how this became Evil POTUS. 😔

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                              • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

                                @byrnensorg @ErikJonker in the US, we are plagued with a high degree of easily manipulated STUPID RACIST. But I’d also ask for a relative comparison with humans around the world for a clearer picture. 🤔

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                                #43

                                @Huntn00 @ErikJonker Well that on the face of it may prove harder to do than it appears for quite a few examples are tainted with the tangerine touch. I refer to far right emboldening in Israel, UK, France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands replacement of political leaders in Venezuela, Iran and an attempt in Greenland. We could search for independent acts of racist movements to equal or supersede those of Trump and his cult, but isn't that precisely what he wants us to do?

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                                • byrnensorg@mastodon.ieB byrnensorg@mastodon.ie

                                  @Huntn00 @ErikJonker Well that on the face of it may prove harder to do than it appears for quite a few examples are tainted with the tangerine touch. I refer to far right emboldening in Israel, UK, France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands replacement of political leaders in Venezuela, Iran and an attempt in Greenland. We could search for independent acts of racist movements to equal or supersede those of Trump and his cult, but isn't that precisely what he wants us to do?

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                                  #44

                                  @byrnensorg @ErikJonker The bottom line, we’re humans who tend to be selfish, and if the $$$ opportunity appears we can lose perspective and make self-destructive choices. At this point, I’ll say there’s some hope, while not being hopeful, and that we’ll probably crash the planet, kill off a couple billion people, and have to start over near the bottom, maybe relearning or evolving into a better species. 🤔

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                                  • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

                                    @byrnensorg @ErikJonker The bottom line, we’re humans who tend to be selfish, and if the $$$ opportunity appears we can lose perspective and make self-destructive choices. At this point, I’ll say there’s some hope, while not being hopeful, and that we’ll probably crash the planet, kill off a couple billion people, and have to start over near the bottom, maybe relearning or evolving into a better species. 🤔

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                                    #45

                                    @Huntn00 @ErikJonker My personal favourites is an intervention by a semi accurate meteor or comet, or an ice age (not an ICE age).

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                                    • erikjonker@mastodon.socialE erikjonker@mastodon.social

                                      Good to spread the word about the disinformation Trump is spreading about NATO-members not supporting the US.
                                      #USA #NATO #Trump #geopolitics @geopolitics

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                                      #46

                                      @ErikJonker @geopolitics oh hey, why don't you also post the numbers of innocent civilians these soldiers murdered around the world, as NATO was invading countries to rape and pillage, while you're at it?

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