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  • contrapunctus@fe.disroot.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
    contrapunctus@fe.disroot.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Let’s try this again.

    Server A users are not posting or boosting anything that is objectionable to Server B.

    But Server A is federating with servers Server B does not like. [1]

    How does this affect Server B in any way? Or, why would Server B cite this as a reason to defederate from Server A?

    Is it merely a case of association fallacy? (“Server A federates with Bad Servers, therefore Server A must be a Bad Server.”)

    Or are there any legitimate problems Server A is causing for Server B?

    [1] Usually because they find defederating to be too extreme for most situations, with too much collateral damage to innocent bystanders…so they use other means to block bad users.

    EDIT: removed FediBlock hashtag

    #Fediverse #ActivityPub #FediHelp

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    • contrapunctus@fe.disroot.orgC contrapunctus@fe.disroot.org

      Let’s try this again.

      Server A users are not posting or boosting anything that is objectionable to Server B.

      But Server A is federating with servers Server B does not like. [1]

      How does this affect Server B in any way? Or, why would Server B cite this as a reason to defederate from Server A?

      Is it merely a case of association fallacy? (“Server A federates with Bad Servers, therefore Server A must be a Bad Server.”)

      Or are there any legitimate problems Server A is causing for Server B?

      [1] Usually because they find defederating to be too extreme for most situations, with too much collateral damage to innocent bystanders…so they use other means to block bad users.

      EDIT: removed FediBlock hashtag

      #Fediverse #ActivityPub #FediHelp

      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
      feditips@social.growyourown.services
      wrote sidst redigeret af feditips@social.growyourown.services
      #2

      @contrapunctus

      It really, really depends on how bad the federated server is. The extremes make this clearer:

      If Server A knowingly federates with e.g. servers that promote genocide, then that is making Server A's members vulnerable to radicalisation. That's really dangerous, it will get people killed in real life.

      For example RTLM radio in Rwanda was a driver of the genocide there (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Libre_des_Mille_Collines) and modern genocides are being driven by social media (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence etc).

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