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  3. Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

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  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

    @futuresprog Great, and yes.. precisely!

    Here you go:

    A: 95.216.76.85
    AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

    twilliability@genart.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #26

    @JulianOliver Just added a pair of records for a .eu domain. I'll let it lapse in August; it can do some good work until then.

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    • twilliability@genart.socialT twilliability@genart.social

      @JulianOliver Just added a pair of records for a .eu domain. I'll let it lapse in August; it can do some good work until then.

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      #27

      @twilliability Great, thanks a lot!

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      • narthur@hachyderm.ioN narthur@hachyderm.io

        @JulianOliver ok. So what do I do? Just point them at those IPs?

        If they all share the same IP, won’t that make them easy to block?

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        #28

        @narthur For now they would all share the same IP.

        Both domain and IP are naturally able to be filtered at the crawler end, but as numerous sites can be hosted behind one IP, it is my belief that they will drop a domain first.

        Further, it's my hope to have instances of the project running on other dedicated hosts down the road.

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        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

          Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

          If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

          https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

          #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

          lazzarello@mastodon.teamnerds.coolL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #29

          @JulianOliver im down. What's the first step?

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          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #30

            @lightweight Thanks again Dave, I'm going to have some homework today adding all these beaut new domains

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            • lazzarello@mastodon.teamnerds.coolL lazzarello@mastodon.teamnerds.cool

              @JulianOliver im down. What's the first step?

              julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #31

              @lazzarello

              Thanks for joining in!

              If you could just add these two records for the domain you wish to gift, and then let me know the domain (either DM or public) once done 🙂

              A: 95.216.76.85
              AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

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              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #32

                A bit over half a million page reads a day by crawlers rn. Just to say the server is doing some good work.

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                • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                  Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                  If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                  https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                  #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                  theholypumpkin@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #33

                  @JulianOliver looking through the replies I'll happily point a subdomain to the provided A-Record my old e-mail address domain is just barely used for the few accounts which don't allow me to change the address.

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                  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                    Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                    If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                    https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                    #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                    mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #34

                    Hi @JulianOliver,
                    pick subdomains of mro1.de and tell me where to point the DNS.

                    Edit: just saw the DNS records above, I will set up some and follow up here later today.

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                    • mro@digitalcourage.socialM mro@digitalcourage.social

                      Hi @JulianOliver,
                      pick subdomains of mro1.de and tell me where to point the DNS.

                      Edit: just saw the DNS records above, I will set up some and follow up here later today.

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                      #35

                      @mro

                      How about 'carrot'?

                      A: 95.216.76.85
                      AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

                      Thanks a lot!

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                      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                        @narthur For now they would all share the same IP.

                        Both domain and IP are naturally able to be filtered at the crawler end, but as numerous sites can be hosted behind one IP, it is my belief that they will drop a domain first.

                        Further, it's my hope to have instances of the project running on other dedicated hosts down the road.

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                        #36

                        @JulianOliver @narthur It seems to me that it would be fairly easy for them to consider that the content is junk and to treat accordingly everything coming from the same IPs. They probably keep a log of where the content used to train the LLMs is coming from (maybe with some kind of hash / pseudonymous maneer), and likely have ways to reject content from the same server IF they detect a problem from several domains linked to this server. IMO a bunch of reverse proxies / various IPs could help : they might be dumb and make it easy to polute their dataset, but probably aren't.

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                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                          Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                          If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                          https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                          #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                          themadhatter@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #37

                          @JulianOliver i have some unused. I'll let them point at A/AAAA you already mentioned. Do you need to know the exact domains?

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                          • themadhatter@mastodon.socialT themadhatter@mastodon.social

                            @JulianOliver i have some unused. I'll let them point at A/AAAA you already mentioned. Do you need to know the exact domains?

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                            #38

                            @themadhatter Thank you! Yes knowing the domains would be needed. If you don't want the world to know they are yours, you can DM.

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                            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                              @themadhatter Thank you! Yes knowing the domains would be needed. If you don't want the world to know they are yours, you can DM.

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                              #39

                              @JulianOliver will send you a send you a DM when ready.

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                              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                                If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                                https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                                #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                                #40

                                @JulianOliver I set one .fi domain for this which was unused I was supposed to delete it already.

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                                • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                  A bit over half a million page reads a day by crawlers rn. Just to say the server is doing some good work.

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                                  #41

                                  Thanks all for the fine domains! I've decided to spin up a new VM and do all the site configs and TLS chain for them at once - more efficient, less prone to error. I will get onto that on my tomorrow and report back here.

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                                  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                    Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

                                    https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                                    The page may grow a bit. Just wanted to get it out the door.

                                    #AI #bigtech

                                    mediengruppe_bitnik@tldr.nettime.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #42

                                    @JulianOliver also ❤ the web design. gotta serve the bots something nice.

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                                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                      @mro

                                      How about 'carrot'?

                                      A: 95.216.76.85
                                      AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

                                      Thanks a lot!

                                      mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #43

                                      Hi @JulianOliver,
                                      carrot.mro1.de and
                                      car.rot.mro1.de and
                                      ca.rr.ot.mro1.de

                                      The pleasure is all mine.

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                                      • mro@digitalcourage.socialM mro@digitalcourage.social

                                        Hi @JulianOliver,
                                        carrot.mro1.de and
                                        car.rot.mro1.de and
                                        ca.rr.ot.mro1.de

                                        The pleasure is all mine.

                                        julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #44

                                        @mro Amazing, thank you! I'll have an update tomorrow once all setup.

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                                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                          Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                                          If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                                          https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                                          #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                                          #45

                                          @JulianOliver sign me up

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