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  3. I just saw someone actually say that women cannot write assembly code.

I just saw someone actually say that women cannot write assembly code.

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  • chojzina@kolektiva.socialC chojzina@kolektiva.social

    @jackielovescompchem32 I am a dude, I don't even know what assembly code is.

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    @chojzina assembly code is a programming language where you directly write in CPU instructions. It's like a slightly less terrible version of machine language.

    I have subjected myself to writing TI 84 code in hexadecimal with a Z80 reference chart I printed from the internet, and trust me, assembly is way easier.

    I wrote the machine code by first writing assembly and putting in the bytes by hand.

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    • jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyzJ jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyz

      @chojzina assembly code is a programming language where you directly write in CPU instructions. It's like a slightly less terrible version of machine language.

      I have subjected myself to writing TI 84 code in hexadecimal with a Z80 reference chart I printed from the internet, and trust me, assembly is way easier.

      I wrote the machine code by first writing assembly and putting in the bytes by hand.

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      @chojzina converting each instruction one by one, and then calculating offsets for branches.

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      • kellyosullivan@mastodon.sdf.orgK kellyosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org

        @jackielovescompchem32 I wrote assembly code in high school.

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        @kellyosullivan me too!

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        • lindasgoluppiart@mastodonapp.ukL lindasgoluppiart@mastodonapp.uk

          @jackielovescompchem32 Maybe post the name of the person who said that. They are people who need outing so they cannot lurk in the dark and so we know who's brain is contaminated.
          #fediverse #mastodon

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          #37

          @lindasgoluppiart it was some idiot on YouTube

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          • jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyzJ jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyz

            Here's some assembly I wrote, in an assembly language THAT WAS INVENTED BY A WOMAN

            @ rem - calculate remainder through repeated subtractions
            @ arguments:
            @ R0 - Number we are going to divide
            @ R1 - Number we are diving by
            @ only changes the value of R0
            rem:
            CMP R0, R1 @ compare the remainder and the divisor
            BLT end @ if the remainder is less than divisor, stop loop
            SUB R0, R0, R1 @ subtract divisor from remainder
            B rem @ loop back to the initial comparison
            end:
            BX LR @ return divisor

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            #38

            One last thing:

            Trans women programmers are in fact women programmers. Trans women face many barriers simply for being who they are. Trans women have been kicked out of their careers, treated with disrespect, and been harassed for being trans women. And it's getting worse, not better.

            And, as for the achievement bit: A trans woman invented VLSI, a trans woman invented ARM 32 bit assembly language, and trans women maintain many of the FOSS softwares you use today (including Asahi Linux and the VC4 Mesa driver, amongst other things)

            And a trans woman wrote the post you are reading right now.

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            • jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyzJ jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyz

              I just saw someone actually say that women cannot write assembly code.

              🙄

              A woman wrote the assembly code that got humanity onto the moon. Be grateful

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              @jackielovescompchem32

              May remind that person that #assembly was invented and co-written by a woman and her husband. And she was subsequently scolded for doing so by a man named John von Neumann for wasting so much valuable computing time. Who, I assume, later came around to see the merits. 😄

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Booth

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              • dcnorris@scicomm.xyzD dcnorris@scicomm.xyz

                @jackielovescompchem32 Wiki says she also coined 'software engineering'!
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_(software_engineer)

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                @dcnorris @jackielovescompchem32 and men have been trying to prove her wrong for calling it engineering ever since

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                • jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyzJ jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyz

                  One last thing:

                  Trans women programmers are in fact women programmers. Trans women face many barriers simply for being who they are. Trans women have been kicked out of their careers, treated with disrespect, and been harassed for being trans women. And it's getting worse, not better.

                  And, as for the achievement bit: A trans woman invented VLSI, a trans woman invented ARM 32 bit assembly language, and trans women maintain many of the FOSS softwares you use today (including Asahi Linux and the VC4 Mesa driver, amongst other things)

                  And a trans woman wrote the post you are reading right now.

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                  A trans woman also invented webkit, one of the first modern browser engines.

                  Fedi's own @lisamelton

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                  • wronglang@bayes.clubW wronglang@bayes.club

                    @dcnorris @jackielovescompchem32 and men have been trying to prove her wrong for calling it engineering ever since

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                    #42

                    @wronglang @dcnorris

                    Most men who call themselves software engineers don't actually follow the principles of engineering the way Margaret Hamilton did.

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                    • jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyzJ jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyz

                      I just saw someone actually say that women cannot write assembly code.

                      🙄

                      A woman wrote the assembly code that got humanity onto the moon. Be grateful

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                      #43

                      @jackielovescompchem32 It wasn’t until being a programmer was a “profession” that men started getting into it. Before that, women did the calculations (the original use of the term computer) and then the programming

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                      • jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyzJ jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyz

                        I just saw someone actually say that women cannot write assembly code.

                        🙄

                        A woman wrote the assembly code that got humanity onto the moon. Be grateful

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                        @jackielovescompchem32 Will never stop sharing this article from Cosmpolitan 1967.

                        Women are natural computer programmers - '“It’s just like planning a dinner,” explains Dr. Grace Hopper'

                        https://archive.org/details/the-computer-girls-cosmopolitan-magazine-april-1967/The%20Computer%20Girls%20-%20Cosmopolitan%20magazine%20%28April%201967%29%20%5Bocr%5D/mode/2up

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                        • wronglang@bayes.clubW wronglang@bayes.club

                          @dcnorris @jackielovescompchem32 and men have been trying to prove her wrong for calling it engineering ever since

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                          @wronglang @jackielovescompchem32 The way most of us program, maybe we ARE proving her wrong! 😂

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                          • jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyzJ jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyz

                            @wronglang @dcnorris

                            Most men who call themselves software engineers don't actually follow the principles of engineering the way Margaret Hamilton did.

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                            @jackielovescompchem32 @wronglang I like the motivation & historical context provided by this quote (w/ refs in the article):

                            "I began to use the term 'software engineering' to distinguish it from hardware and other kinds of engineering, yet treat each type of engineering as part of the overall systems engineering process."

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