i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

[rjbs@social.semiotic.systems]

@b0rk Ugggggh if you find a good answer, please repost it with a bright red light. I think the biggest issue is that the roff format is too bankrupt, and we need better linking primitives, but… I might just be jaded.

[acut3@infosec.exchange]

@b0rk I use man with MANPAGER set to `less -ic --use-color -Dd+g -Duc`. Not super fancy, but has a few colors.

[simpleanecdote@mastodon.social]

@b0rk there are too many to list. `yelp` (Gnome Help) comes to mind. `tldr` is a different approach. Then there are "smart" terminals, integrations, and a host of other things all trying to help us execute commands properly.

[notecharlie@social.bigcavemaps.com]

@b0rk I guess there's gnu's `info`... And of course each `man` implementation is different; I'm partial to openbsd's, but it is the antithesis of fancy.

[ladytel@masto.hackers.town]

@b0rk I use batman. It has colors and syntax highlighting

https://github.com/eth-p/bat-extras/blob/master/doc/batman.md

Edit: should have read the replies to not be caller number 5 linking to the same thing

[aerique@genart.social]

@b0rk @krans Girl!

[aerique@genart.social]

@rjbs @b0rk So we first need to convert roff to something useful?

(As someone who wrote an RTF to XML converter once in XSLT and Java I am not volunteering.)

[gduchaussois@mastodon.xyz]

@b0rk batman from bat ?

[rjbs@social.semiotic.systems]

@aerique @b0rk A tool that consumes roff will (I believe) never be good. (We could change roff but no.) We want a tool that reads something better and can fall back to roff. We can't convert roff-to-gooddoc.

Texinfo was meant to be that, but (I would say) failed. A subset of HTML could replace it. (And Texinfo can compile to HTML.) You'd then want a tool that know how to find the html for a given command/name.

It's "easy" except for the xkcd 927 problem. Sorry, this is not constructive.

[b0rk@social.jvns.ca]

@doekman it's so nice! my dream is that somehow someone has made something like that for the terminal

[aerique@genart.social]

@rjbs @b0rk Oh it is constructive. I'd never looked at roff.

[b0rk@social.jvns.ca]

qman looks interesting but on my machine it takes several seconds to start https://github.com/plp13/qman

[flohw@pouet.chapril.org]

@b0rk I use [bat](https://github.com/sharkdp/bat) with this env var `export MANPAGER="sh -c 'col -bx | bat --language man --plain'"`
This look like this.

[arrakeen_urbanite@universeodon.com]

@b0rk Appears to be coded in C. Perhaps it is a good target for re-implementation in Rust or Go?

[xmanmonk@mastodon.sdf.org]

@b0rk Looks like a nice tui version of xman, which is one of my favorite guis.

[vathpela@infosec.exchange]

@SnoopJ @b0rk also pinfo ( https://github.com/baszoetekouw/pinfo ), which is at least different.

[ingenieur@mas.to]

@b0rk https://github.com/filiparag/wikiman
or I also use Television for fuzzy finding and then opening the pages in bat with man.

https://alexpasmantier.github.io/television/

[puppethead@ieji.de]

@b0rk Maybe something like manx? It's for macOS but it is just a bash script so maybe it could be tweaked for other platforms.

https://github.com/jakshin/manx

[milo@types.pl]

@rjbs @b0rk this was my first thought lol. roff is incredibly cursed

[nafmo@social.vivaldi.net]

@b0rk Not replace, but this script opens in a PDF viewer:

https://www.softwolves.com/wolfblog/2024/11/19/making-man-pages-easier-to-read/

I did write a simple HTML man page render back at university (1997), I wonder if I still have the sources for that...