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LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers.

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  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

    LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. They’re going to be replacing it for decades and wondering how we were so foolish

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    @danirabbit unfortunately, it's the few powerful, and possibly non-techie, CXOs who are so convinced that this is such a great idea. The rest of us have little choice but to go along with this hysteria just to keep our jobs.

    To be honest, the economics doesn't make sense to me. The amounts being spent on this — I am struggling to see the returns. Only time can tell a few stories. But until then, I need to feed my family and send my kids to college.

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    • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @danirabbit That's the time frame I considered, decades. Furthermore, there will be advances with the technology. In some years LeCun plans to have his startup produce new models, based on JEPA. If you give even a 10-20% more reliability to current systems people will eventually adopt them as undisputable truth - even if they fail a 50% of times, and bias users 90% of times.
      I've had a talk right yesterday with a very smart engineer who was anyway totally enchanted by an LLM's results.

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      #22

      @luc0x61 @danirabbit my experience today was another example of why you should have prod and dev separated.

      Asked to test entry. Test succesful, entry removed 😂

      The other was implementing smtp, and it sent all test emails to logs succesfully. Yup

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      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

        LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. They’re going to be replacing it for decades and wondering how we were so foolish

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        #23

        @danirabbit why would anyone care about code quality, if code is a commodity?

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        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

          LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers. They’re going to be replacing it for decades and wondering how we were so foolish

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          #24

          @danirabbit For decades we’ve worried about replacing COBOL because the code was often opaque; the underlying business rules transformed into a spaghetti bowl of logic paths exacerbated by the REDEFINES clauses making the data just as awful.

          The folks that considered leaving COBOL in place as an acceptable technology choice will buy into vibe-code slop and proclaim (still) “it ain’t broke so there’s no need to fix it.”

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          • tofticles@helvede.netT tofticles@helvede.net

            @danirabbit I'm a bit curious how ElementaryOS (well, you lot 😄) are coping with upstream vibecoding if and when it happens?

            I have no bright ideas, to be honest - so consider this my copium asking more knowledgable people 😊.

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            @tofticles not well, personally haha

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            • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

              @tofticles not well, personally haha

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              #26

              @danirabbit Absolutely fair 🫣.

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