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  3. Truck drivers across Norway are going to be congesting roads by driving at 40kph in the Easter holidays to protest record-high fuel prices caused by the Trump administration.

Truck drivers across Norway are going to be congesting roads by driving at 40kph in the Easter holidays to protest record-high fuel prices caused by the Trump administration.

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  • niall@mastodon.nzN niall@mastodon.nz

    @etchedpixels @Photo55 @ketan less servicing downtime is very valuable, especially if you are not large enough for a large fleet.

    Alternative options to make Electric more competitive:

    1/ Overhead lines (like electric trains) for sections of motorway meaning you need only a small battery to get you through the gaps and to your destination. Trialed in Germany a few years ago.

    2/ Trains...

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    @Niall @etchedpixels @ketan

    3. An increase in the speed limit on motorways for electric large trucks of 2 mph (or a reduction of 2mph in the Eurolimiter-governed) limit for Diesel ones, or both.

    4. An increase in permitted all-up weight for electric trucks which might need to be 4 tonnes.

    With respect, you were looking at the wrong things, nice though they are. Logistics outranks TCO

    Some of it is in the conclusions here
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0739885926000247

    But Diesel price is very important also.

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    • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

      @Niall @etchedpixels @ketan

      3. An increase in the speed limit on motorways for electric large trucks of 2 mph (or a reduction of 2mph in the Eurolimiter-governed) limit for Diesel ones, or both.

      4. An increase in permitted all-up weight for electric trucks which might need to be 4 tonnes.

      With respect, you were looking at the wrong things, nice though they are. Logistics outranks TCO

      Some of it is in the conclusions here
      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0739885926000247

      But Diesel price is very important also.

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      @Photo55 @etchedpixels @ketan with respect I wasn't but sure, go tell people they're wrong in field where there is no clear right/wrong.

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      • niall@mastodon.nzN niall@mastodon.nz

        @Photo55 @etchedpixels @ketan with respect I wasn't but sure, go tell people they're wrong in field where there is no clear right/wrong.

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        @Niall @etchedpixels @ketan

        My apologies.
        And that explains why the motorways are nose to tail electric HGVs

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        • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

          Truck drivers across Norway are going to be congesting roads by driving at 40kph in the Easter holidays to protest record-high fuel prices caused by the Trump administration.

          If a climate activist mentioned the *possibility* of doing this in a group chat they'd be jailed and fined millions within hours

          https://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/_dieselbrolet_-er-i-gang-_-saktegaende-trafikk-flere-steder-1.17827420

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          @ketan Ah yes, because this is totally the citizens of Norway's fault. /s.

          Perhaps they'd have better luck at the US Embassy.

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          • patrickoldhiker@ohai.socialP patrickoldhiker@ohai.social

            @CorioPsicologia @ketan Farmers certainly have more claim on fossil fuel use than Americans driving lifted pickup trucks to go to work in office cubicles.

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            @Patrickoldhiker @CorioPsicologia @ketan

            they tried this in my bit of England a year or two ago, on the A12 highway between Suffolk/Essex and London.

            It had near 0 effect, as the roads are often so congested anyway no one really noticed the traffic was going that much slower 😁

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            • david_preston@mastodon.socialD david_preston@mastodon.social

              @tina @ketan Norway has done very well to electrify a lot of it's cars with grants and incentives and extensive charging points, this hasn't happened in trucking yet obviously so I think it's fair to protest the cost of diesel. I don't think Norwegian truckers are the enemy and I don't think they are against climate preservation or electric lorries but maybe their protest will make some of the Norwegian politicians look into grants for the purchase of electric heavy duty transportation.

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              @david_preston @ketan

              Quote: "Det er mulig at ikke alle er klar over hvor enkelt det er å søke om støtte til elektrisk lastebil, så vi ønsker å forklare prosessen noe nærmere. "

              Or: 95% of those who apply for government support to buy an electric truck has gotten a positive answer, with between 70 000 and 160 000 Euro paid out.

              So there are grants, and fairly big ones. The question is will.

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              • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

                Truck drivers across Norway are going to be congesting roads by driving at 40kph in the Easter holidays to protest record-high fuel prices caused by the Trump administration.

                If a climate activist mentioned the *possibility* of doing this in a group chat they'd be jailed and fined millions within hours

                https://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/_dieselbrolet_-er-i-gang-_-saktegaende-trafikk-flere-steder-1.17827420

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                @ketan

                I sure hope Norwegian electeds get the message on how important this is and take some action to end Trump.

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                • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

                  Truck drivers across Norway are going to be congesting roads by driving at 40kph in the Easter holidays to protest record-high fuel prices caused by the Trump administration.

                  If a climate activist mentioned the *possibility* of doing this in a group chat they'd be jailed and fined millions within hours

                  https://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/_dieselbrolet_-er-i-gang-_-saktegaende-trafikk-flere-steder-1.17827420

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                  @ketan
                  Make Fuel Cheap Again logic 🙈🤡 #norway

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                  • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

                    @Niall @etchedpixels @ketan

                    My apologies.
                    And that explains why the motorways are nose to tail electric HGVs

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                    @Photo55 @etchedpixels @ketan yes, they're not because noone listened to your genius /s

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                    • tina@mastodon.babb.noT tina@mastodon.babb.no

                      @david_preston @ketan

                      Quote: "Det er mulig at ikke alle er klar over hvor enkelt det er å søke om støtte til elektrisk lastebil, så vi ønsker å forklare prosessen noe nærmere. "

                      Or: 95% of those who apply for government support to buy an electric truck has gotten a positive answer, with between 70 000 and 160 000 Euro paid out.

                      So there are grants, and fairly big ones. The question is will.

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                      #27

                      @tina @ketan that is a promising amount of funding. A big investment for an individual but higher fuel prices will make them more appealing I suppose and the absence of electric powered trucks on the protest will certainly be food for thought.

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                      • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

                        Truck drivers across Norway are going to be congesting roads by driving at 40kph in the Easter holidays to protest record-high fuel prices caused by the Trump administration.

                        If a climate activist mentioned the *possibility* of doing this in a group chat they'd be jailed and fined millions within hours

                        https://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/_dieselbrolet_-er-i-gang-_-saktegaende-trafikk-flere-steder-1.17827420

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                        @ketan On the good side of things, these guys have probably never driven as fuel-efficiently as today!

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