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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    There has recently been a wave of AI-generated accounts signing up pretending to be real people.

    Server admins are trying to ban them as quickly as they are discovered, and some servers have temporarily closed sign-ups while they deal with it.

    If you spot an account you think might be AI-generated, click ⋯ on one of the account's posts and select "report". Remember to give your reason for reporting, so that the admin knows what to look for.

    #FediTips

    davecb@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #3

    @FediTips I'm faintly surprised that individual instances don't have the option to limit new registrants' postings, require them to be sponsored or have them read-only for a while.

    My wife used to belong to a club that would let you attend (IRL) four meetings. To be permanent, you needed a sponsor,

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      There has recently been a wave of AI-generated accounts signing up pretending to be real people.

      Server admins are trying to ban them as quickly as they are discovered, and some servers have temporarily closed sign-ups while they deal with it.

      If you spot an account you think might be AI-generated, click ⋯ on one of the account's posts and select "report". Remember to give your reason for reporting, so that the admin knows what to look for.

      #FediTips

      ckrnkfrnchmn@mastodon.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
      ckrnkfrnchmn@mastodon.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
      ckrnkfrnchmn@mastodon.world
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      #4

      @FediTips

      Any tips on fishing out AI accounts..?

      c_chell@equestria.socialC klu9@ohai.socialK everydaymoggie@sfba.socialE 3 Replies Last reply
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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        There has recently been a wave of AI-generated accounts signing up pretending to be real people.

        Server admins are trying to ban them as quickly as they are discovered, and some servers have temporarily closed sign-ups while they deal with it.

        If you spot an account you think might be AI-generated, click ⋯ on one of the account's posts and select "report". Remember to give your reason for reporting, so that the admin knows what to look for.

        #FediTips

        c_chell@equestria.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @FediTips Also usually using temporary mail services or onion mail services.

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        • ckrnkfrnchmn@mastodon.worldC ckrnkfrnchmn@mastodon.world

          @FediTips

          Any tips on fishing out AI accounts..?

          c_chell@equestria.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #6

          RE: https://equestria.social/@C_Chell/116852408005529645

          @CkrnkFrnchMn
          May my reply (I see you post after replying).
          @FediTips

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          • davecb@hachyderm.ioD davecb@hachyderm.io

            @FediTips I'm faintly surprised that individual instances don't have the option to limit new registrants' postings, require them to be sponsored or have them read-only for a while.

            My wife used to belong to a club that would let you attend (IRL) four meetings. To be permanent, you needed a sponsor,

            jdebp@mastodonapp.ukJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jdebp@mastodonapp.ukJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #7

            @davecb

            They have. It's called 'invites'.

            https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/signup/#invite

            @FediTips
            #FediTips #Mastodon

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            • jdebp@mastodonapp.ukJ jdebp@mastodonapp.uk

              @davecb

              They have. It's called 'invites'.

              https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/signup/#invite

              @FediTips
              #FediTips #Mastodon

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              #8

              @JdeBP @FediTips Excellent, thanks!

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                There has recently been a wave of AI-generated accounts signing up pretending to be real people.

                Server admins are trying to ban them as quickly as they are discovered, and some servers have temporarily closed sign-ups while they deal with it.

                If you spot an account you think might be AI-generated, click ⋯ on one of the account's posts and select "report". Remember to give your reason for reporting, so that the admin knows what to look for.

                #FediTips

                2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @FediTips@social.growyourown.services

                And very importantly: know that when you file a report, a real person reads it! Not an AI!


                RE: https://transfem.social/notes/adhk91r22eiv0h80

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  There has recently been a wave of AI-generated accounts signing up pretending to be real people.

                  Server admins are trying to ban them as quickly as they are discovered, and some servers have temporarily closed sign-ups while they deal with it.

                  If you spot an account you think might be AI-generated, click ⋯ on one of the account's posts and select "report". Remember to give your reason for reporting, so that the admin knows what to look for.

                  #FediTips

                  clickhere@mastodon.ieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  @FediTips Thank you! 🙌🏼❤️

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                  • jdebp@mastodonapp.ukJ jdebp@mastodonapp.uk

                    @davecb

                    They have. It's called 'invites'.

                    https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/signup/#invite

                    @FediTips
                    #FediTips #Mastodon

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                    #11

                    @JdeBP @davecb @FediTips

                    Unfortunately I read that was part of the problem. Existing bot accounts were inviting a lot more bot accounts. At least currently when someone is invited it bypasses some of the normal checks on new users. I also read that invites have been turned off on a lot of servers to help stop this.

                    Double check what I am saying here though.

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                    • ckrnkfrnchmn@mastodon.worldC ckrnkfrnchmn@mastodon.world

                      @FediTips

                      Any tips on fishing out AI accounts..?

                      klu9@ohai.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @CkrnkFrnchMn @FediTips

                      Inhumanly high output, e.g. paragraph-long replies in 5 different threads in under 3 minutes

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        There has recently been a wave of AI-generated accounts signing up pretending to be real people.

                        Server admins are trying to ban them as quickly as they are discovered, and some servers have temporarily closed sign-ups while they deal with it.

                        If you spot an account you think might be AI-generated, click ⋯ on one of the account's posts and select "report". Remember to give your reason for reporting, so that the admin knows what to look for.

                        #FediTips

                        stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @FediTips Pff.. it's a lot

                        Tips for mods/admins:

                        - Look for weird email TLDs
                        - Displayname mostly contains: "Firstname Lastname Emoji"
                        - Look for invited and go upchain to ban them all
                        - Check IP and ban where needed
                        - Good luck

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                        • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                          @FediTips@social.growyourown.services

                          And very importantly: know that when you file a report, a real person reads it! Not an AI!


                          RE: https://transfem.social/notes/adhk91r22eiv0h80

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                          #14

                          @2something@transfem.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services

                          How are we all spotting ai/bot/inauthentic accounts? I'm not intuitively great at this and would love to hear peoples' takes on what the indicators are.


                          #i-do-not-look-at-slop-and-as-a-result-i-do-not-always-realize-what-slop-looks-like #ditto-for-other-types-of-nonsense
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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            There has recently been a wave of AI-generated accounts signing up pretending to be real people.

                            Server admins are trying to ban them as quickly as they are discovered, and some servers have temporarily closed sign-ups while they deal with it.

                            If you spot an account you think might be AI-generated, click ⋯ on one of the account's posts and select "report". Remember to give your reason for reporting, so that the admin knows what to look for.

                            #FediTips

                            lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #15

                            @FediTips i always do this. one of the few pleasures i have in life, telling on bots.

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                            • occurrent@app.wafrn.netO occurrent@app.wafrn.net

                              @2something@transfem.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services

                              How are we all spotting ai/bot/inauthentic accounts? I'm not intuitively great at this and would love to hear peoples' takes on what the indicators are.


                              #i-do-not-look-at-slop-and-as-a-result-i-do-not-always-realize-what-slop-looks-like #ditto-for-other-types-of-nonsense
                              2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #16

                              @occurrent@app.wafrn.net @FediTips@social.growyourown.services

                              I'm not either.

                              On fedi, since I'm not a mod, I tend to follow the approach of reporting when I am suspicious or unsure, and letting the mods sort it out. This sometimes leads to
                              @puppygirlhornypost2 saying things like

                              i have beth report duty ​​
                              But she's also said
                              ok i lied i have like 4 more beth reports but i digress. god i think beth should actually just maintain a page highlighting some of this lol. the shit she sends, gems.
                              On Matrix, I am a mod for two rooms, but recognizing AI bots hasn't been much of an issue. The spammers have been really really obvious about being spammers. The other users show they are legitimate users over time. The harder part is sussing out bigotry.

                              EDIT:

                              Oh yeah and I guess I've also modded wikis, but thus far I haven't had to make a decision about whether a user is an LLM. On
                              @wiki@gts.rainverse.wiki we've only ever banned on user, and it wasn't for LLM use. On Pandora's Tale Wiki there were 17 spam-only accounts made in quick succession, and it doesn't matter whether they were using LLM or some other method of generating spam.

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                              • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                                @occurrent@app.wafrn.net @FediTips@social.growyourown.services

                                I'm not either.

                                On fedi, since I'm not a mod, I tend to follow the approach of reporting when I am suspicious or unsure, and letting the mods sort it out. This sometimes leads to
                                @puppygirlhornypost2 saying things like

                                i have beth report duty ​​
                                But she's also said
                                ok i lied i have like 4 more beth reports but i digress. god i think beth should actually just maintain a page highlighting some of this lol. the shit she sends, gems.
                                On Matrix, I am a mod for two rooms, but recognizing AI bots hasn't been much of an issue. The spammers have been really really obvious about being spammers. The other users show they are legitimate users over time. The harder part is sussing out bigotry.

                                EDIT:

                                Oh yeah and I guess I've also modded wikis, but thus far I haven't had to make a decision about whether a user is an LLM. On
                                @wiki@gts.rainverse.wiki we've only ever banned on user, and it wasn't for LLM use. On Pandora's Tale Wiki there were 17 spam-only accounts made in quick succession, and it doesn't matter whether they were using LLM or some other method of generating spam.

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                                #17

                                @wiki@gts.rainverse.wiki @puppygirlhornypost2@transfem.social @2something@transfem.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services

                                This is a good approach. For me I haven't felt confident reporting much since i just can't think of anything that would make me reasonably suspicious? I think my brain just has a blank spot there. Like if an account looks like it's selling something with a million repeated posts that's obviously spam, but I struggle to recognize anything else.. It's good to know you are On The Case lol.

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                                • ckrnkfrnchmn@mastodon.worldC ckrnkfrnchmn@mastodon.world

                                  @FediTips

                                  Any tips on fishing out AI accounts..?

                                  everydaymoggie@sfba.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #18

                                  If you have your instance set to approve signups manually, you can check a few things:
                                  - The join reason is copied from someone else's existing profile, or it sounds nonsensical because it's written by a script that just pulls random fill-ins from somewhere
                                  - The physical location of the IP address either doesn't match their claimed location, or it's a Tor exit node, or a data center (some legit signups come from data centers, too, so this is just one thing to look at)
                                  - Disposable email in combination with one of the above

                                  @CkrnkFrnchMn @FediTips

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                                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                    There has recently been a wave of AI-generated accounts signing up pretending to be real people.

                                    Server admins are trying to ban them as quickly as they are discovered, and some servers have temporarily closed sign-ups while they deal with it.

                                    If you spot an account you think might be AI-generated, click ⋯ on one of the account's posts and select "report". Remember to give your reason for reporting, so that the admin knows what to look for.

                                    #FediTips

                                    missgayle@urbanists.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #19

                                    @FediTips

                                    You know, requiring a mere $1 a month ($5 is better) per account of support for the instance in order to have an account (payable in advance - no recurring pymnt, no acct approval, and suspension if the recurring pymnt is stopped) solves both the bot problem and the freeloaders problem. Just saying. There's no tech solution that will weed out dishonest registrations faster or more efficiently.

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                                      #20

                                      @RaymondPierreL3 @FediTips

                                      The "so what" is that as bandwidth and stirage costs continue to rise instances can't survive without funding, and it is morally and ethically correct to say that everyone who can contribute, should.

                                      Nobody owes anyone a free platform without obligations. How is that different from predatory Epstein class behavior, take take take - but accept no responsibility for the or to the community?

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                                      • hikergeek@mas.toH hikergeek@mas.to

                                        @JdeBP @davecb @FediTips

                                        Unfortunately I read that was part of the problem. Existing bot accounts were inviting a lot more bot accounts. At least currently when someone is invited it bypasses some of the normal checks on new users. I also read that invites have been turned off on a lot of servers to help stop this.

                                        Double check what I am saying here though.

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                                        #21

                                        We disabled them on our instance because they were bypassing the normal approval process for signups.

                                        @HikerGeek

                                        @JdeBP @davecb @FediTips

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                                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                          @FediTips Pff.. it's a lot

                                          Tips for mods/admins:

                                          - Look for weird email TLDs
                                          - Displayname mostly contains: "Firstname Lastname Emoji"
                                          - Look for invited and go upchain to ban them all
                                          - Check IP and ban where needed
                                          - Good luck

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                                          #22

                                          @stux @FediTips
                                          If you fight automated signups with manual tasks you will loose the game, no matter what 😕

                                          A small signup fee maybe could solve two problems at the same time?

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