A person that did not do a single useful thing in their life and built their empire on exploitation and fraud became the first trillionaire.
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@map
Musk has rallied large teams of skilled engineers around ambitious projects with substantial funding. Look, he's an asshole, I get it. I wish people like him, on balance, didn't exist. I just don't buy the polemik statement that he's contributed nothing.@duncan_lithgow @map he's not just an asshole, he's also a cunt!
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A person that did not do a single useful thing in their life and built their empire on exploitation and fraud became the first trillionaire. If you still believe capitalism works and aren't disgusted, I don't know how to help you.
@map I can't believe it took me so long to realize that an economic system based on the accumulation of wealth was inherently flawed. I guess because that's how I was brought up (indoctrinated).
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@duncan_lithgow @map So, he used his billions of dollars to pay a whole bunch of knowledgeable people to do things that haven't helped any of us and have likely harmed many of us.
@clonedhuman
I don't think #tesla is a wasted project. As far as I can tell they've pushed #ev & #battery technology forward and generally popularized #ev as a viable alternative. While #spacetravel is a controversial use of energy I've not heard an argument that #spacex is somehow worse than their competitors. My concessions: his attitude to 'free speech' means he allowed terrible use of #ai #llm. He's allowed #twitter to become a cesspool of problems.
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@duncan_lithgow lol. "Rallied large teams of skilled engineers". You are so lost.
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Personal attack is often the sign that useful dialog is over. But let's try again. Please explain your claim that I'm so ignorant that I'm lost. -
@duncan_lithgow @map he's not just an asshole, he's also a cunt!
@Sine_Nomine
Love it.
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@map
Personal attack is often the sign that useful dialog is over. But let's try again. Please explain your claim that I'm so ignorant that I'm lost.@duncan_lithgow @map
Latest Musk 'contribution'...
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A person that did not do a single useful thing in their life and built their empire on exploitation and fraud became the first trillionaire. If you still believe capitalism works and aren't disgusted, I don't know how to help you.
@map Capitalism works exactly as it's meant to. That's why it should be rejected.
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@map
Musk has rallied large teams of skilled engineers around ambitious projects with substantial funding. Look, he's an asshole, I get it. I wish people like him, on balance, didn't exist. I just don't buy the polemik statement that he's contributed nothing.@duncan_lithgow @map
His cars are unreliable. his rockets crash most of the time. he measures software engineering output by lines of code and fires people accordingly. he hates 3rd party repairson the cars.
his websites are nazi gong shows. he hates his kids. He never did anything good in his life. how was the boot to lick this morning? -
@duncan_lithgow @map
His cars are unreliable. his rockets crash most of the time. he measures software engineering output by lines of code and fires people accordingly. he hates 3rd party repairson the cars.
his websites are nazi gong shows. he hates his kids. He never did anything good in his life. how was the boot to lick this morning?@duncan_lithgow @map He showed the fucking Hitlergruß on TV last year.
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@duncan_lithgow @map He showed the fucking Hitlergruß on TV last year.
@duncan_lithgow @map he pulled his trans daughter into the spotlight who never consented to this. He is full of Keratine. Nothing else. His big cars glog up cities that they are banned now. He is not smart. He has no talents. Musk family became only so rich because they were profiters of the appartheid.
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@duncan_lithgow @map actual billboard in London!
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A person that did not do a single useful thing in their life and built their empire on exploitation and fraud became the first trillionaire. If you still believe capitalism works and aren't disgusted, I don't know how to help you.
@map His cash has come from our tax $. He never invented anything, he bought startups using grants and federal contracts from the US government.
He’s a product of apartheid S Africa. Talk about, coming to America…to shill and steal from you and me. -
@map im already disgusted at billionaire, let alone trillionaire.
You could fix so many things, of you decided to realize those millions, billions, trillions into something that's good for the society.
Hoarding riches is evil, why do you think those dragons are always slain in the stories!
@lizzard @map I’m disgusted or at least irritated that it’s called billionaire or trillionaire when the money doesn’t exists. He ist NOT a trillionaire. It’s just a an assumption or a math … - he doesn’t get cash from selling shares. And if all is sold, others own the shares not him. As soon as everyone is selling the price goes down by a lot.
It’s purely in the books and I don’t get it that society can be build on such “fake” -
@lizzard @map I’m disgusted or at least irritated that it’s called billionaire or trillionaire when the money doesn’t exists. He ist NOT a trillionaire. It’s just a an assumption or a math … - he doesn’t get cash from selling shares. And if all is sold, others own the shares not him. As soon as everyone is selling the price goes down by a lot.
It’s purely in the books and I don’t get it that society can be build on such “fake” -
@lizzard @map That’s why I’m quite irritated by that whole concept.
I mean: my business is worth a billion at least. Yes. Trust me! Oh BTW could you give me 100 million in cash right now? I give you shares until I pay it back. Deal?I don’t get it.
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@Galley Just a little bit more austerity until it trickles down!
@map
Man, I get so triggered by hearing "trickle down". I heard it from the #newzealand #neoliberal #chicagoschool economists all my childhood.
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@lizzard @map That’s why I’m quite irritated by that whole concept.
I mean: my business is worth a billion at least. Yes. Trust me! Oh BTW could you give me 100 million in cash right now? I give you shares until I pay it back. Deal?I don’t get it.
️ but if someone is willing to give me that cash … I won’t say no @nSonic @map it's not even shares against money that's so weird. It's the fact that Elon as a person takes a loan for his living expenses, yachts and whatever, against the company's worth, then takes out more loans to pay them. That only works as long as SpaceX gets continuously more valuable - but he can basically talk people into believing that. It's... So far removed from regular people's lives, so far away from the rules of our lives.
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@map I can't believe it took me so long to realize that an economic system based on the accumulation of wealth was inherently flawed. I guess because that's how I was brought up (indoctrinated).
@imhensley @map It's close enough to mercantilism/commercialism to disguise itself as somewhat legitimate. Providing goods and services to people will always be needed, and people with novel ideas can be rewarded. (Note: "can" not "will" there.)
It's just that once people start owning the companies without contributing to the production that the problem starts.
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@lizzard @map That’s why I’m quite irritated by that whole concept.
I mean: my business is worth a billion at least. Yes. Trust me! Oh BTW could you give me 100 million in cash right now? I give you shares until I pay it back. Deal?I don’t get it.
️ but if someone is willing to give me that cash … I won’t say no @nSonic @lizzard @map You should watch the Extra Credits videos on the South Sea Bubble if you want to try to "get" it. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL931Bkj5KLMtJ4AMegQtekqKcCy14FCec
It's effectively just hype pushing money up. That's it. It's a house of cards that will eventually crash once someone feels there's no backing.
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