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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

    Red is spending, green is revenue.

    https://isaiprofitable.com

    gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    gossithedog@cyberplace.social
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    #6

    Companion piece.

    perrin42@mastodon.socialP T carpetbomberz@mastodon.onlineC defectivewings@infosec.exchangeD natesubra@infosec.exchangeN 10 Replies Last reply
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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

      Red is spending, green is revenue.

      https://isaiprofitable.com

      tdp_org@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @GossiTheDog Can't wait for the inevitable multiple orders of magnitude price rises once everyone's hooked.
      Old school drug dealer tactics, the first few hits are free...

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

        Red is spending, green is revenue.

        https://isaiprofitable.com

        tdp_org@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @GossiTheDog Can't wait for the inevitable multiple orders of magnitude price rises once everyone's hooked.
        Old school drug dealer tactics, the first few hits are free...

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

          Red is spending, green is revenue.

          https://isaiprofitable.com

          bontchev@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @GossiTheDog I'm surprised that Anthropic's revenue is so close to the bottom. The boss recently bought me an individual Claude subscription and it's been great (I can do 9 times more than with the free version). But there's no way in hell we'd pay real money for any of the others.

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

            Red is spending, green is revenue.

            https://isaiprofitable.com

            jb@masto.hackers.townJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @GossiTheDog

            During Gold Rush era San Francisco, the two types of people who actually got rich were grifters defrauding people, and those selling shovels and other gear to hopeful would be miners.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Companion piece.

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              #11

              @GossiTheDog

              Lot of circles following those arrows...

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                Red is spending, green is revenue.

                https://isaiprofitable.com

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                #12

                @GossiTheDog Seems like the startups have figured out they can beat the established giants by getting them to bankrupt themselves.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  Companion piece.

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                  #13

                  @GossiTheDog Yes, those green bars are much bigger than in reality because of this. In their disclaimer section:

                  > The AI economy is circular: Google funds Anthropic, Anthropic runs on Google Cloud, Amazon funds Anthropic, Microsoft co-invests with OpenAI. This means aggregate industry figures double-count some revenue flows.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                    Red is spending, green is revenue.

                    https://isaiprofitable.com

                    seb@gruene.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @GossiTheDog I guess Nvidia is pretty happy as-is but I do wonder if we won't see issues for them too down the line - the more expensive/unavailable hardware becomes the more the consumer market will adapt to this new ceiling, countries that have been talking about hardware dependency will start manufacturing chips and so on. We will see.

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                      Red is spending, green is revenue.

                      https://isaiprofitable.com

                      B This user is from outside of this forum
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                      bedifferent@mastodon.social
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                      #15

                      @GossiTheDog ? When companies or concepts start up, isn't spending always going to be > than revenue? You're supposed to be building a product (sw, hw, a human being) so the initial outlay will be bigly greater.

                      What am I not seeing? AI is bad. It's released like Bill Gates released his prototype product that I don't think ever went off without a bunch of glitches. TEST first for months or years then release the damn product unless you want a bunch of stupid/ignorant ppl ... (hey, a goal).

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        Companion piece.

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                        #16

                        @GossiTheDog

                        It's one giant circle-jerk

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          Companion piece.

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                          #17

                          @GossiTheDog
                          If not bubble why bubble shaped?

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                            Red is spending, green is revenue.

                            https://isaiprofitable.com

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                            #18

                            @GossiTheDog don't tell nasdaq.

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                              Red is spending, green is revenue.

                              https://isaiprofitable.com

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                              #19

                              @GossiTheDog Hold on... BRB... Bankrupting the slop machines by asking them how many R's are in Strawberry.

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                #20

                                @GossiTheDog I've got a bridge in London to sell them..

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                  Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                  https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                  #21

                                  @GossiTheDog for colour blind people, the upper is spending and the lower is revenue

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    Companion piece.

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                                    #22

                                    @GossiTheDog
                                    That companion piece is missing Anthropic and some of the recent moves there. Still pretty enlightening. It's crazy the amount of money that's getting shifted around

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                      Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                      https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                      cleanduck@mastodon.social
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                                      #23

                                      @GossiTheDog this is quite interesting, what are we thinking when the penny finally drops? NVIDIA go down? They’re about the only ones with actual assets, albeit depreciating ones. But surely their stock is inflated?

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                        Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                        https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                        #24

                                        @GossiTheDog It is quite profitable. For Nvidia. Not so much for all the others.

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                          Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                          https://isaiprofitable.com

                                          kasiandra@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #25

                                          @GossiTheDog
                                          #alt4you
                                          List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

                                          Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
                                          Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
                                          Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
                                          Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
                                          Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
                                          OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
                                          Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

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