Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
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@GossiTheDog Outside the tech bubble there seem to be three groups of people.
business types (even non-tech) who are very enthusiastic for it, and how "it's the future", the next industrial revolution, etc. When you ask them, they've not really used it for anything, but read an article in the FT or The Economist, or something.
people who've actually used it who think it's irritating and useless.
people completely oblivious to it.
@chiffchaff @GossiTheDog i know a few non-tech people whon are amazed at how much time it saves doing the parts of their jobs that don't need doing at all. Of course, they admit, it makes many mistakes, "but you have to check for them"!
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
AI may be a nice tool to help humanity advance in certain fields, like medical diagnosis. But that doesn't mean it needs or has to be used "everywhere".
An analogy would be like eating fast food 3 times a day, you'll surely end up sick. -
Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog We just went through a record snowstorm here. In the run up, while every other site was predicting what turned out to be an accurate 12"-15", MSN weather was predicting less than 4". MSN's info reported during the storm was just as wonky. It's now reporting 2 inches fell in total. And, yet, somehow, a Google search turns up lots of tech press gushing about the reliability of Microsoft's AI-driven weather tool.
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog my dad has a big complain every time i call him. people who aren't like us hate it too.
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
They're sneaky about it though. I use Outlook on my Samsung phone, and while I can disable CoPilot on the Microslop accounts, it keeps turning itself back on.
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AI may be a nice tool to help humanity advance in certain fields, like medical diagnosis. But that doesn't mean it needs or has to be used "everywhere".
An analogy would be like eating fast food 3 times a day, you'll surely end up sick.@hadon @GossiTheDog right. And there is a big difference between the 'AI' which helps with medical diagnoses and the 'AI' that produces confident-sounding text about almost anything, even when that text is wrong.
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog whenever my dad is about to lose a political or religious argument with me via text, the next message I receive is an extremely long copy/paste response from chatGPT full of logical fallacies.
It’s annoying AF.
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog I’ve been looking at a new TV recently and noticed that those TVs without any form of assistant included are a substantial amount more than those with. I’ll pay the extra, thanks (and my TV won’t have a network connection either).
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Best way to keep new AI off your tech equipment is to buy older tech equipment second hand!
@mossyrua @GossiTheDog that's why I got a big ol' plasma. No "smart" features, though I don't know how the energy usage compares to a TV with AI in (for what?).
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@chiffchaff @GossiTheDog i know a few non-tech people whon are amazed at how much time it saves doing the parts of their jobs that don't need doing at all. Of course, they admit, it makes many mistakes, "but you have to check for them"!
@ehproque @chiffchaff @GossiTheDog like writing all those boring documents that nobody reads but need to exist for some nonsense compliance reason... until they get read in a court case and suddenly they're really important.
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@ehproque @chiffchaff @GossiTheDog like writing all those boring documents that nobody reads but need to exist for some nonsense compliance reason... until they get read in a court case and suddenly they're really important.
@jwdt @chiffchaff @GossiTheDog yeah, I used to work at an organisation that kept millions of raw logs "just in case" and built a tool to make them readable. Guess what was in them…
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@hadon @GossiTheDog right. And there is a big difference between the 'AI' which helps with medical diagnoses and the 'AI' that produces confident-sounding text about almost anything, even when that text is wrong.
@bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog I agree.
The "AI" that is used in medical fields is subject to stronger criteria, is not fed the entire internet, and given very specific things to look for/analyse/etc. Niche tools can do a better job than one that tries to do everything.
Plus, have you seen the crap us humans put on the internet? No wonder the "AI" in the broad-spectrum sense is shit...
Add the fact that "AI" cannot distinguish between truth and satire, just makes it worse.
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@GossiTheDog whenever my dad is about to lose a political or religious argument with me via text, the next message I receive is an extremely long copy/paste response from chatGPT full of logical fallacies.
It’s annoying AF.
@zed wow.. That's really sad @GossiTheDog
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@GossiTheDog I’ve been looking at a new TV recently and noticed that those TVs without any form of assistant included are a substantial amount more than those with. I’ll pay the extra, thanks (and my TV won’t have a network connection either).
@GossiTheDog @gulfie you could always just buy a display screen, they generally don't have any embedded software or native platform built in...
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog i've been seeing this with students, too - a lot perceive as a layer on top of their notmal process that gets in the way, just an extra confirm box to skip through. Even for beginners ai looks like feature bloat.
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog A lot of tech people hate it too, and can't wait for the bubble to burst.
I keep seeing adverts for new laptops "powered by AI", and cannot think of a less attractive selling point.
All the devs on my team have gone from "This could really speed up development" to "This creates so much extra work because there is no intelligence there, they're all just sycophantic predictive text generators".
When working with codebases, the AIs really struggle with context. They often provide outdated solutions, introduce technical debt and often add three bugs for every bug fixed. We have stopped using AI completely. No "vibe coding" crap allowed here.
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Best way to keep new AI off your tech equipment is to buy older tech equipment second hand!
@mossyrua @GossiTheDog don't connect t appliances to a network
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog time to cede control
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog ROLFMAO
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@bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog I agree.
The "AI" that is used in medical fields is subject to stronger criteria, is not fed the entire internet, and given very specific things to look for/analyse/etc. Niche tools can do a better job than one that tries to do everything.
Plus, have you seen the crap us humans put on the internet? No wonder the "AI" in the broad-spectrum sense is shit...
Add the fact that "AI" cannot distinguish between truth and satire, just makes it worse.
@richrockster @bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog
That's the point. Medical (or other specialist) AI are feed scientific data. Generalist AI like Gemini, ChatGPT, etc are feed... 4chan, Reddit, etc.
Not your best source on anything, really
