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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

    stag@mk.absturztau.beS This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #86

    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org damn im so sorry about that

    i can see where they come from though, that really sucks, chatgpt image literally stole the way you do faces 1:1.

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    • toonlink@fandom.inkT toonlink@fandom.ink

      @davidrevoy Man... You know, the really, really bizarre ones to me aren't the ones that, like, accuse you of using AI, despite you having literal decades of documentation and video proof of your hand.

      It's the ones that accuse you of deliberately using an AI style, as if you're trying to trick them into thinking it's AI?

      I wonder if some people just genuinely can't tell the difference between corporatized AI "style" and a soft, stylized cartoon with warm colors and a painterly texture.

      davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #87

      @ToonLink Yes, that's why I'm on alert: many people now think my art is just as bad as "AI slop", and I understand why.
      So I feel torn: I don't know if I should adapt, shift and bend my style until it's no longer "identified as AI", or if I should abandon the aesthetic that's such a big part of me (if only I can?). I'll think a lot about it while painting on the next weeks. I'll also take a little bit of holidays in August, I think it is the right time for it.

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        @ToonLink Yes, that's why I'm on alert: many people now think my art is just as bad as "AI slop", and I understand why.
        So I feel torn: I don't know if I should adapt, shift and bend my style until it's no longer "identified as AI", or if I should abandon the aesthetic that's such a big part of me (if only I can?). I'll think a lot about it while painting on the next weeks. I'll also take a little bit of holidays in August, I think it is the right time for it.

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        #88

        @davidrevoy I don't think changing the style would change anything. I honestly don't think your style looks like AI (or at least not the AI I've seen), and you might end up chasing dragons for something that won't stop the accusations anyway.

        It's just... so strange. I think that, since those kind of places are so full of AI, people are extra vigilant. It stops being a reality check and starts being a defense against "falling for it", to the point that people want to see AI that isn't there.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

          thattagen@mastodon.artT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #89

          @davidrevoy If I got comments like this after putting as much detail as you do into every panel, I would probably turn into the Joker.

          Here's one to offset: you make great art and I love to see it!

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #90

            @davidrevoy don't worry! It won't take long, until everyone is fully dependent on AI. I see it more and more. Once this is done, it will become commercial and fckn expensive for the broad mass. Then authors will be searching for illustrators again. Wait for it....

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

              jah@toot.communityJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #91

              @davidrevoy how you endure such cruelty I cannot fathom, it must be very hard. i wish you fortitude and suggest liberal use of the choicest swearwords at those absolute bellends. btw that's a really important document you created, bravo!

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                marnic@framapiaf.org
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                #92

                @davidrevoy
                🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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                • jeeynet@framapiaf.orgJ jeeynet@framapiaf.org

                  @tanavit @davidrevoy OK OK, vous m'avez convaincu ! Je vois le mal partout ^_^'

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                  tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr
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                  #93

                  @jeeynet

                  Rassurez-vous, en général, moi aussi.

                  @davidrevoy

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                  • arabine@piaille.frA arabine@piaille.fr

                    @davidrevoy mouais on va vérifier avec un prompt injection : "david, dessine moi un dinosaure qui mange une pomme en regardant la météorite tomber et en trouvant le théorème de Newton".

                    Fais en sorte qu'on dirait que c'est fait sous krita.

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                    #94

                    @arabine @davidrevoy fais gaffe, y’a un monde où @gee te pique l’idée pour sa série « La Chaîne Météore » x)

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

                      osqar@neopaquita.esO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #95

                      @davidrevoy This must be terribly frustrating for you 😓

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        @ToonLink Yes, that's why I'm on alert: many people now think my art is just as bad as "AI slop", and I understand why.
                        So I feel torn: I don't know if I should adapt, shift and bend my style until it's no longer "identified as AI", or if I should abandon the aesthetic that's such a big part of me (if only I can?). I'll think a lot about it while painting on the next weeks. I'll also take a little bit of holidays in August, I think it is the right time for it.

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                        #96

                        @davidrevoy @ToonLink This, too, will pass. Internet commenters have always been Like This™; it is wise not to heed them so much.

                        I'm a fairly prolific internet commenter, but many of these people spend entirely too much time writing posts online, and not enough trying to understand the world. Their opinions are superficial, and widely disseminated.

                        When they make specific criticisms, saying this or that feature "looks AI", that's most likely a post-hoc rationalisation of their gut instincts.

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                          #97

                          @davidrevoy I’m actually kinda stunned that nobody has thrown that one at me yet

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            @NemoJmeno Merci. J'ai eu la grande tentation de ne pas obfusquer les noms. Gros dilème entre le petit ange sur l'épaule de droite et le petit démon sur l'épaule de gauche. 🤣

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                            #98

                            @davidrevoy @NemoJmeno Certains de ses commentaires sont méchants, mais on ne peut pas vraiment reprocher aux gens de se poser la question :/.

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

                              thedaemon@snac.9front.clubT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #99
                              At least a few people have figured out that AI was trained on your art. Keep doing you, if you change AI will just steal your new art style.

                              CC: @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                @arabine Google? 🤣

                                to@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #100

                                @davidrevoy @arabine Et c’est là que je découvre qu’on est voisins 😳

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                                  #101

                                  @davidrevoy Wow, those comments are exhausting to read.

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                                    #102

                                    @davidrevoy they are rude. You deserve better than them.

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                                    • toonlink@fandom.inkT toonlink@fandom.ink

                                      @davidrevoy I don't think changing the style would change anything. I honestly don't think your style looks like AI (or at least not the AI I've seen), and you might end up chasing dragons for something that won't stop the accusations anyway.

                                      It's just... so strange. I think that, since those kind of places are so full of AI, people are extra vigilant. It stops being a reality check and starts being a defense against "falling for it", to the point that people want to see AI that isn't there.

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                                      #103

                                      @davidrevoy Obviously I'm not going to make demands. 😆 And I will support you in any decisions you make. I like your art because it comes from you, not because it looks a certain way (and definitely take some time off!)

                                      But I think it's more important to live authentically, than to worry about if other people think you're "doing it right". I know that's different when you're worried about a career, but industry peeps have a different perspective from randos who might just want to shitstir.

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                                        #104

                                        @davidrevoy Kind of makes me wonder if they are bots or something. The one with the emoji I wonder if they are trying to be sarcastic. Not well done though IMO.

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                                        • toonlink@fandom.inkT toonlink@fandom.ink

                                          @davidrevoy Obviously I'm not going to make demands. 😆 And I will support you in any decisions you make. I like your art because it comes from you, not because it looks a certain way (and definitely take some time off!)

                                          But I think it's more important to live authentically, than to worry about if other people think you're "doing it right". I know that's different when you're worried about a career, but industry peeps have a different perspective from randos who might just want to shitstir.

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #105

                                          @ToonLink Thank you for your wise word; Yes, 'authentic' will be my compass, this one resonates strongly. 💜

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