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Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Conclusions Tour Day 12 - Bruxelles - Gent - Eeklo - Brugge

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Foul cycle ride from near Schuman to Bruxelles Midi. Car went through a red light, businessman who couldn’t control the speed of his e-bike cut me up, braked too hard, and bumped into another cyclist. And Brussels cyclists are taking on the traits of Brussels car drivers: selfish and odd, unexpected behaviours. #CrossBorderRail

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    Interesting comment from another cyclist yesterday in the EU quarter. I was unlocking my tiny folding Birdy next to his massive electric long tail. “Is that electric?” he asked me about my bike. “No” I replied. “Oh you can’t be from Brussels then!” As if no one in their right mind would ride anything else. #CrossBorderRail

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      Interesting comment from another cyclist yesterday in the EU quarter. I was unlocking my tiny folding Birdy next to his massive electric long tail. “Is that electric?” he asked me about my bike. “No” I replied. “Oh you can’t be from Brussels then!” As if no one in their right mind would ride anything else. #CrossBorderRail

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      #6

      #CrossBorderRail Conclusions Tour Train 38 of 74
      IC 430
      09:38 Bruxelles Midi - Gent St Pieters 10:06
      SNCB

      Train type: 2x Siemens 18 locomotive top-tailing 6 double deck carriages
      ⚡️ (3kV dc)
      🚲: ✅ (loads of space)
      🦽: ✅ (needs train manager to open a special door)
      🛜: ⛔️
      🍽️: ⛔️
      🧳: 😐 (hit and miss - get the right carriage and it’s ok as double deck designs go)
      🧽: 🙂

      🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        #CrossBorderRail Conclusions Tour Train 38 of 74
        IC 430
        09:38 Bruxelles Midi - Gent St Pieters 10:06
        SNCB

        Train type: 2x Siemens 18 locomotive top-tailing 6 double deck carriages
        ⚡️ (3kV dc)
        🚲: ✅ (loads of space)
        🦽: ✅ (needs train manager to open a special door)
        🛜: ⛔️
        🍽️: ⛔️
        🧳: 😐 (hit and miss - get the right carriage and it’s ok as double deck designs go)
        🧽: 🙂

        🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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        #7

        (Stats from Central where I’d intended boarding it)

        IC 430
        09:28 Bruxelles Central - Gent St Pieters 10:06

        Distance: 51.8km
        Average speed: 82km/h

        2 stops:
        Bruxelles Midi
        Gent St Pieters

        This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-conclusions-tour_1266988#11/50.9411/4.0121

        #CrossBorderRail

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          (Stats from Central where I’d intended boarding it)

          IC 430
          09:28 Bruxelles Central - Gent St Pieters 10:06

          Distance: 51.8km
          Average speed: 82km/h

          2 stops:
          Bruxelles Midi
          Gent St Pieters

          This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-conclusions-tour_1266988#11/50.9411/4.0121

          #CrossBorderRail

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          #8

          #CrossBorderRail Conclusions Tour Train 39 of 74
          S51 759
          10:14 Gent St Pieters - Eeklo 10:49
          SNCB

          Train type: Alstom AR41 DMU, 2x 2 carriages
          ⛽️
          🚲: ✅
          🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
          🛜: ⛔️
          🍽️: ⛔️
          🧳: ☹️ (high steps, some doors narrow, not great once you’re in either)
          🧽: 🙂

          🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            #CrossBorderRail Conclusions Tour Train 39 of 74
            S51 759
            10:14 Gent St Pieters - Eeklo 10:49
            SNCB

            Train type: Alstom AR41 DMU, 2x 2 carriages
            ⛽️
            🚲: ✅
            🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
            🛜: ⛔️
            🍽️: ⛔️
            🧳: ☹️ (high steps, some doors narrow, not great once you’re in either)
            🧽: 🙂

            🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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            #9

            S51 759
            10:14 Gent St Pieters - Eeklo 10:49

            Distance: 26.5km
            Average speed: 45km/h

            7 stops:
            Gentbrugge
            Gent-Dampoort
            Wondelgem
            Evergem
            Sleidinge
            Waarschoot
            Eeklo

            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-conclusions-tour_1266988#12/51.1052/3.6663

            #CrossBorderRail

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              S51 759
              10:14 Gent St Pieters - Eeklo 10:49

              Distance: 26.5km
              Average speed: 45km/h

              7 stops:
              Gentbrugge
              Gent-Dampoort
              Wondelgem
              Evergem
              Sleidinge
              Waarschoot
              Eeklo

              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-conclusions-tour_1266988#12/51.1052/3.6663

              #CrossBorderRail

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              #10

              These AR41 DMUs are among the weirdest rolling stock acquisitions in modern times. Built 2000-2002, they’re high floor (when low floor DMUs already existed), have few doors (but serve routes with many stops). The motor vibrations are quite bad too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Railways_Class_41?wprov=sfti1#

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                These AR41 DMUs are among the weirdest rolling stock acquisitions in modern times. Built 2000-2002, they’re high floor (when low floor DMUs already existed), have few doors (but serve routes with many stops). The motor vibrations are quite bad too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Railways_Class_41?wprov=sfti1#

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                #11

                And the high floor DMUs work especially well with the platforms along the route that weren’t renovated, so are about 30cm above the rail

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  And the high floor DMUs work especially well with the platforms along the route that weren’t renovated, so are about 30cm above the rail

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                  #12

                  Cashier at Lidl, Eeklo gets arsey that I have three bike panniers with me in the store

                  Do tell me in our car dominated shopping culture how I am supposed to do any different? I can’t leave valuables on the bike!

                  Edit: to be clear - the cashier wasn’t annoyed by panniers per se, but wanted to search them to check I wasn’t shoplifting.

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    Cashier at Lidl, Eeklo gets arsey that I have three bike panniers with me in the store

                    Do tell me in our car dominated shopping culture how I am supposed to do any different? I can’t leave valuables on the bike!

                    Edit: to be clear - the cashier wasn’t annoyed by panniers per se, but wanted to search them to check I wasn’t shoplifting.

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                    #13

                    Ok. Destination 400 #CrossBorderRail borders!

                    #CrossBorderRail Conclusions Tour Bike 10 of 17
                    Eeklo - Brugge, via 3 former tramway borders

                    Distance: 53.7km
                    Est. duration: 4:00

                    This bike route, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-conclusions-tour_1266988#12/51.2303/3.4099

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Ok. Destination 400 #CrossBorderRail borders!

                      #CrossBorderRail Conclusions Tour Bike 10 of 17
                      Eeklo - Brugge, via 3 former tramway borders

                      Distance: 53.7km
                      Est. duration: 4:00

                      This bike route, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-conclusions-tour_1266988#12/51.2303/3.4099

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                      #14

                      So @Pepijn wanted pics of grey Flanders. Voila! #CrossBorderRail

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