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  3. Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies.

Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies.

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  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

    Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

    jmax@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #9

    @hacks4pancakes Thank you.

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    • wendynather@infosec.exchangeW wendynather@infosec.exchange

      @hacks4pancakes You’re my hero.

      neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #10

      @wendynather @hacks4pancakes seconded

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      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

        Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

        momo@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #11

        @hacks4pancakes
        I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

        Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

        gbargoud@masto.nycG jmax@mastodon.socialJ maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM lily_and_frog@mastodon.artL 4 Replies Last reply
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        • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

          @hacks4pancakes
          I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

          Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

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          #12

          @momo @hacks4pancakes

          That one's really hard because they have shown themselves to be both so many times

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          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

            Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

            mndflayr@metalhead.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #13

            @hacks4pancakes

            Congrats for the second post in that screen shot, I think the point you made there is not stated often enough.

            I really hate how LLM took over the general term "AI", that has been used in CS research for dozens of different approaches.

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            • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

              @hacks4pancakes
              I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

              Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

              jmax@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #14

              @momo @hacks4pancakes Both.

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              • mndflayr@metalhead.clubM mndflayr@metalhead.club

                @hacks4pancakes

                Congrats for the second post in that screen shot, I think the point you made there is not stated often enough.

                I really hate how LLM took over the general term "AI", that has been used in CS research for dozens of different approaches.

                hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                #15

                @mndflayr I drink and I know something

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                • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

                  @hacks4pancakes
                  I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

                  Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

                  maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #16

                  @momo @hacks4pancakes The leadership is swayed by the AI $$$. And they're too stupid to conider anything else. At work we've been testing a Claude-based system to remediate mssing alt-text in ebooks, and the results would not make me confident you could use it for targeting. In fact, the opposite of that.

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                  • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

                    @hacks4pancakes
                    I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

                    Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

                    lily_and_frog@mastodon.artL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #17

                    @momo @hacks4pancakes

                    Third option:
                    They're cruel and murderous on purpose (Israel is committing genocide in Gaza and the US supports it after all) and initially planned to use AI as plausible denial for PR reasons, but don't because it doesn't make it look any better. Worse, in fact.

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                    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                      @mndflayr I drink and I know something

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                      #18

                      @hacks4pancakes
                      Its the opposite for me. I drink and I stop knowing things. 😋

                      @mndflayr

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                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                        Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                        #19

                        @hacks4pancakes

                        To be fair, it's really easy to spin people up on Bluesky.

                        I don't know of any truly left-leaning people who support AI.

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                        • cosmicktrigger@mastodon.socialC cosmicktrigger@mastodon.social

                          @hacks4pancakes

                          To be fair, it's really easy to spin people up on Bluesky.

                          I don't know of any truly left-leaning people who support AI.

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                          #20

                          @hacks4pancakes

                          We just need to give better training to the LLMs and make them wear body cams

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                          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                            Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                            #21

                            @hacks4pancakes and the smug "military targeters would probably have made the same mistake" makes me think of Chief Wright (Stonekettle Station) who did targeting during the first Gulf War and talked about sleepless nights double-checking intelligence to make sure they didn't kill civilians, and called off attacks when they couldn't be sure, who would have been personally devastated if they learned a missile they launched had killed school-kids. The military structure at the time allowed him to care about such things, but Secretary Kegseth doesn't seem to care or have a soul as far as I can tell.

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                            • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                              @mndflayr I drink and I know something

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                              #22

                              @hacks4pancakes I don’t, and that probably has brought me in the permanent state that Terry Pratchett once called “knurd”. -5/10 can’t recommend

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                              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                @wendynather @hacks4pancakes seconded

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                                #23

                                @neurovagrant @wendynather @hacks4pancakes
                                Me three

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                                • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                  Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies. It’s not worth it. https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/pentagon-ai-claude-bombing-elementary-school

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                                  #24

                                  @hacks4pancakes
                                  As a 97B, I was taught to always recheck any form of electronic or image intelligence. During WWII we "read" a flyover photo of people lined up to enter a Nazi gas chamber as people lined up to enter a mess hall.

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                                  • cosmicktrigger@mastodon.socialC cosmicktrigger@mastodon.social

                                    @hacks4pancakes

                                    We just need to give better training to the LLMs and make them wear body cams

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                                    #25

                                    @CosmickTrigger

                                    Thank you.

                                    The whole "AI safety" field in a nutshell.

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_safety

                                    @hacks4pancakes @AnnaAnthro

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                                    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                      Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                                      #26

                                      @hacks4pancakes
                                      I wish that would be an energy source…

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                                        #27

                                        @jwi @hacks4pancakes Both are bad. One for giving bad information, the other for using it without checking it.

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