I get the snark, but "page has to load in x time on expensive device in expensive city"... where is the human?
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"Your use case is, there's a fourteen year old in an emergency room at 3 AM. English is their second or maybe fourth language. They have a battered school Chromebook or a hand-me-down Android device that was the cheapest thing on the market six years ago or a PS Vita their parents don't even realize has a web browser, and they're trying to educate themselves in the middle of the single most terrifying night they've ever experienced. Your site needs to work for that person at that moment."
@mhoye@cosocial.ca Joke's on you: I target older HTML5. Like my JS doesn't use shit like
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"Your use case is, there's a fourteen year old in an emergency room at 3 AM. English is their second or maybe fourth language. They have a battered school Chromebook or a hand-me-down Android device that was the cheapest thing on the market six years ago or a PS Vita their parents don't even realize has a web browser, and they're trying to educate themselves in the middle of the single most terrifying night they've ever experienced. Your site needs to work for that person at that moment."
@mhoye@cosocial.ca Also axing legacy shit IS an equity issue.
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"Your use case is, there's a fourteen year old in an emergency room at 3 AM. English is their second or maybe fourth language. They have a battered school Chromebook or a hand-me-down Android device that was the cheapest thing on the market six years ago or a PS Vita their parents don't even realize has a web browser, and they're trying to educate themselves in the middle of the single most terrifying night they've ever experienced. Your site needs to work for that person at that moment."
@mhoye@cosocial.ca I think your quote IS real.
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"Your use case is, there's a fourteen year old in an emergency room at 3 AM. English is their second or maybe fourth language. They have a battered school Chromebook or a hand-me-down Android device that was the cheapest thing on the market six years ago or a PS Vita their parents don't even realize has a web browser, and they're trying to educate themselves in the middle of the single most terrifying night they've ever experienced. Your site needs to work for that person at that moment."
@mhoye@cosocial.ca My friends in poverty can confirm this is a real thing.
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@mhoye@cosocial.ca My friends in poverty can confirm this is a real thing.
@mhoye@cosocial.ca Like let me just say this: if you make any mission-critical public service pages that don't need to do any handling of sensitive information, it's perfectly okay to have them load even on older devices AND not have HTTPS. For instance http://b3k.me/b3k.htm can run on fucking Gopher if you point an HTML5 browser at a Gopher server (I'm running that on SDF's) or even an intranet or even offline from a file or data URL. It can run on P2P browsers like Beaker, and could even run on the Tor network if I put it there (although I shudder to think of what the Dark Web would do with it, but I don't have to think of it because a certain troll already saw fit to use it as a way to obfuscate illegal data and told everyone how to on his blog on
WordPress, so that's why I'm not going to be shipping a Tor version anytime soon) for some reason. It can run from synced cloud folders. It can run from a Mass Storage Device, Wii with HTTP, ESP32 with HTTP, a fucking vape, an RPi, Copyparty, FTP, or anything you can think of, so long as it's HTML5. But it has no issue on shit like Basilisk XPMod, PaleMoon, and InterWebPPC. So your ancient Macs and PCs can run it. Also it can run on Hurd and BSDs. Or Rhapsody's server. Maybe even Win9x and Win2K via Kernel shenanigans. LisaWorks can also host HTML so this code could be delivered from an Apple Lisa. Any of WindowsG Electronics' old PCs and "Universal Serial Bussies" could def host this damn thing. Some can even directly run it. So have fun with that! Also this code can fight censorship. -
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