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  3. It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

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  • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

    It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

    ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

    Every response is a choice.

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    #11

    @cliffle My last (intentional) tie to Google was Google Maps. Time to sever that tie too.

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    • maya_b@hachyderm.ioM maya_b@hachyderm.io

      @cliffle

      it's almost like they're daring Canada and Canadians to abandon and boycott their plattorm

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      #12

      @maya_b @cliffle They think that if they show Canada "Lake Ontario" they will be OK, ignoring that Trump's approval rating is down to 30% and most Americans will think they are pathetic wimps for going along with this. New York State and the city of Rochester have officially rejected the change, so no one bordering the lake wants this shit.

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      • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

        It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

        ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

        Every response is a choice.

        codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #13

        @cliffle it is a choice, until corporations declare themselves nation states who don't have to abide by the government they operate in.

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        • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

          It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

          ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

          Every response is a choice.

          tknarr@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14

          @cliffle Check how fast USGS NGIS altered the name. That's where Google gets the names from for maps displayed for US users.

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          • Z zerodowntime@mastodon.social

            @cliffle I got rid of Google Maps today. I believe this was the final nail in the coffin for my decades long year relationship with Google. Now to explore the options... 😊

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            #15

            @zerodowntime @cliffle , never had the app because…well…because it’s Google. 🤷‍♀️

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            • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

              It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

              ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

              Every response is a choice.

              j2kun@mathstodon.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #16

              @cliffle Who specifically said they are doing it because they're following orders?

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              • tknarr@mstdn.socialT tknarr@mstdn.social

                @cliffle Check how fast USGS NGIS altered the name. That's where Google gets the names from for maps displayed for US users.

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                #17

                @tknarr @cliffle this is true, and the original post smells like disinformation.

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                • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                  It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                  ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                  Every response is a choice.

                  kleen@sfba.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #18

                  @cliffle didn’t Google still have that report an error thing for maps? We know what to do then.

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                  • maya_b@hachyderm.ioM maya_b@hachyderm.io

                    @cliffle

                    it's almost like they're daring Canada and Canadians to abandon and boycott their plattorm

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                    #19

                    @maya_b @cliffle I see too many businesses with gmail accounts and almost every Canadian business website has Google Maps embedded on their Contact Us page

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                    • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                      It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                      ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                      Every response is a choice.

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                      #20

                      @cliffle The choice is "join the illegal fascist regime to make more money".

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                      • antopatriarca@mathstodon.xyzA antopatriarca@mathstodon.xyz

                        @maya_b @cliffle I thought the name you see depended on your IP as I still see both the gulf and the lake using the old name and I assumed it was because I’m in Italy. Do Canadians (or Mexican in case of the gulf) see the Trump BS name? That would be some stupidity from Google.

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                        #21

                        @antopatriarca @maya_b @cliffle Google implemented this non law so well that some Canadian government sites didn't show Lake Ontario any more.

                        https://hsnl.social/@eloy/117187268076254760

                        Google compliance to actual law is, like always, glacial.

                        https://hachyderm.io/@cliffle/117186781798605597

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                        • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                          It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                          ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                          Every response is a choice.

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                          #22

                          @cliffle

                          Everything Google does is intended to curry the favor of oil oligarchs, petrostate despots, and their financiers.

                          https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/15/major-investor-calls-on-google-owner-to-aggressively-cut-staff-and-pay

                          https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/billionaire-hohn-more-google-layoffs-17736530.php

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/07/heres-a-look-at-who.html

                          https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligencer-trump-mbs-meeting-brings-ai-money-2025-11-20/

                          https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-google-hand-dissident-data-to-saudi-arabia-activists-say-2023-7

                          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-05-13/trump-mbs-tout-1-trillion-saudi-deal-commitment

                          https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-saudi-event-include-ceos-chevron-qualcomm-pfizer-source-says-2025-11-17/

                          https://www.thenation.com/article/society/wall-street-mbs-saudi-al-rumayyan/

                          https://www.businessinsider.com/how-investment-in-uber-brought-saudi-prince-to-silicon-valley-2020-9

                          https://fortune.com/2024/01/08/amazon-microsoft-google-opening-saudi-arabia-hqs/

                          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/us/politics/trump-saudi-business-lunch-musk-altman.html

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                          • antopatriarca@mathstodon.xyzA antopatriarca@mathstodon.xyz

                            @maya_b @cliffle I thought the name you see depended on your IP as I still see both the gulf and the lake using the old name and I assumed it was because I’m in Italy. Do Canadians (or Mexican in case of the gulf) see the Trump BS name? That would be some stupidity from Google.

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                            #23

                            @antopatriarca @maya_b @cliffle Germany sees "Lake Ontario (Lake America)". Not sure which other countries are affected how.

                            I presume it will be consistent with the Gulf of Mexico.

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                            • tjc_2@mastodon.socialT tjc_2@mastodon.social

                              @cliffle

                              Oh, GOOGLE - an executive order is NOT a law that YOU must obey. It's an order for the executive branch to follow unless it's not allowed by law. It's YOUR CHOICE to kowtow to this nonsense.

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                              #24

                              @TJC_2 @cliffle The usual trick is to threaten to end all government contracts on noncompliance.

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                              • j2kun@mathstodon.xyzJ j2kun@mathstodon.xyz

                                @tknarr @cliffle this is true, and the original post smells like disinformation.

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                                #25

                                @j2kun @tknarr @cliffle Pretty sure the USGS NGIS does not say which name to show in Germany?

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                                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                                  @cliffle

                                  Everything Google does is intended to curry the favor of oil oligarchs, petrostate despots, and their financiers.

                                  https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/15/major-investor-calls-on-google-owner-to-aggressively-cut-staff-and-pay

                                  https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/billionaire-hohn-more-google-layoffs-17736530.php

                                  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/07/heres-a-look-at-who.html

                                  https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligencer-trump-mbs-meeting-brings-ai-money-2025-11-20/

                                  https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-google-hand-dissident-data-to-saudi-arabia-activists-say-2023-7

                                  https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-05-13/trump-mbs-tout-1-trillion-saudi-deal-commitment

                                  https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-saudi-event-include-ceos-chevron-qualcomm-pfizer-source-says-2025-11-17/

                                  https://www.thenation.com/article/society/wall-street-mbs-saudi-al-rumayyan/

                                  https://www.businessinsider.com/how-investment-in-uber-brought-saudi-prince-to-silicon-valley-2020-9

                                  https://fortune.com/2024/01/08/amazon-microsoft-google-opening-saudi-arabia-hqs/

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/us/politics/trump-saudi-business-lunch-musk-altman.html

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                                  #26

                                  @Npars01 @cliffle And an older one: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/google-apple-remove-navalny-app-stores-russian-elections-begin-2021-09-17/

                                  Yes, even Putin.

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                                  • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                                    It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                                    ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                                    Every response is a choice.

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                                    #27

                                    @cliffle

                                    "don't be evil"
                                    [follows dictates of a rapist]

                                    Google needs to be emptied out.

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                                    • divverent@social.vivaldi.netD divverent@social.vivaldi.net

                                      @Npars01 @cliffle And an older one: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/google-apple-remove-navalny-app-stores-russian-elections-begin-2021-09-17/

                                      Yes, even Putin.

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                                      #28

                                      @divVerent @cliffle

                                      Google sides with authoritarians, always

                                      Saudi Arabia
                                      https://www.newsweek.com/what-absher-google-approved-saudi-government-app-tracks-women-1350005

                                      https://english.aawsat.com/technology/4500261-over-26m-electronic-transactions-carried-out-through-saudi-arabias-absher

                                      China
                                      https://theintercept.com/2018/08/01/google-china-search-engine-censorship/

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/02/google-working-on-censored-search-engine-for-china

                                      https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49015516

                                      https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/chinas-moonshot-talks-with-microsoft-amazon-google-over-k3-revenue-sharing-2026-08-26/

                                      https://qz.com/moonshot-ai-kimi-k3-revenue-sharing-microsoft-amazon-google-082626

                                      Russia
                                      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/15/google-helped-facilitate-russia-china-censorship-requests

                                      https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48262148

                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/01/02/top-google-exec-pushed-company-commit-human-rights-then-google-pushed-him-out-he-says/

                                      Orban
                                      https://kyivindependent.com/orbans-party-biggest-spenders-of-google-advertising-in-eu/

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                                      • divverent@social.vivaldi.netD divverent@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @j2kun @tknarr @cliffle Pretty sure the USGS NGIS does not say which name to show in Germany?

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                                        #29

                                        @divVerent @tknarr @cliffle The German government also runs a place name system (BKG). Does it choose a different name that Maps ignores? If so, that might be worth complaining about.

                                        My point is really that people should first learn how the systems work before posting rants about them.

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                                        • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                                          It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                                          ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                                          Every response is a choice.

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                                          #30

                                          @cliffle
                                          Here in Australia, I see:
                                          Lake Ontario
                                          Gulf Of Mexico (Gulf Of America)

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