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  • w00p@infosec.exchangeW w00p@infosec.exchange

    @jupiter the impossible-to-pronounce-for-a-non-Czech password

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    #48

    The pronunciation point got me wondering whether an American would be able to pronounce this password: zzzccccczczczcczczcc

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    • dryak@mstdn.scienceD dryak@mstdn.science

      @benroyce @jupiter

      In all seriousness this is a genuine problem (due to UTF-8 normalization-- composition vs decomposition) if you switch between MacOS (always use ASCII latin letter codepoint + diacritic codepoint, no matter what; i.e. "o" + "/", "r" + carron, etc.) and anything else (always prefere one single codepoint if the accented letter exists, e.g., in the Latin-1 block: "ø", Latin Extended-A block: "ř")
      ...

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      #49

      @dryak @benroyce @jupiter few years ago my ETL to analytics cube start suddenly failing because of company enabled registration via mobile app and one user decided to have username as “Princess👑👑👑” yeah I know I wasn’t sanitizing input enough, but tbh no one expected this when the ETL was designed.

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      • cy@chaos.socialC cy@chaos.social

        @kasperd @jupiter i like my passwords like my potatoes! heavily salted

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        #50

        For sure, leaving out the salt is highly irresponsible.

        But I don’t trust sites to be salting, so I pick passwords that are strong enough that even if a site stored it using a single iteration of MD5 with no salting it would not be broken.

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        • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social shared this topic
        • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

          Interestingly the lower case version of that password is found in exactly one leak known to https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords

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          #51

          @kasperd @jupiter

          that's why my password is

          a æ u å æ ø i æ å

          🤭

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @greynerd65 @evdelen @jupiter

            "directorate of analysis, make a note on this file: greynerd65 fell for the social hack of leaking opsec details by luring them into a false sense of informality"

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            #52

            @benroyce @evdelen @jupiter
            I’m really very curious to find out what details regarding operational security have been disclosed 😂

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            • evdelen@mstdn.caE evdelen@mstdn.ca

              @benroyce @jupiter

              https://kuber.studio/cookie/

              Follow this one past the typing test... Not that far off from the truth.

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              #53

              @evdelen @benroyce @jupiter The slow typing is unacceptable, and it stops if I switch tabs. Nope.

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              • M mike805@noc.social

                @evdelen @benroyce @jupiter The slow typing is unacceptable, and it stops if I switch tabs. Nope.

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                #54

                @mike805 @benroyce @jupiter

                Click "skip intro" on the top right.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @kasperd @jupiter

                  that's why my password is

                  a æ u å æ ø i æ å

                  🤭

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                  #55

                  I have the CD with the song that line came from.

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                  • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    Czech your passwords.

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                    #56

                    @jupiter
                    Have your cat type your passwords.

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                    • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                      The pronunciation point got me wondering whether an American would be able to pronounce this password: zzzccccczczczcczczcc

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                      #57

                      @kasperd @w00p @jupiter
                      It's pronounced just like it's spelled, Kasperd.

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                      • greynerd65@mastodon.socialG greynerd65@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce @evdelen @jupiter
                        I’m really very curious to find out what details regarding operational security have been disclosed 😂

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                        #58

                        @greynerd65 @evdelen @jupiter

                        "THEY DID IT AGAIN! WRITE THIS DOWN!"

                        i'm just being a jerk

                        i'm good at it

                        🤭

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                        • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                          I have the CD with the song that line came from.

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                          #59

                          Sorry I misremembered. The actual line in that song is:
                          A æ u i æ å, u i å æ ø

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                          • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                            The pronunciation point got me wondering whether an American would be able to pronounce this password: zzzccccczczczcczczcc

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                            #60

                            @kasperd @w00p @jupiter chchchchch?

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                            • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                              I totally agree with that. There was a time where I used machines with both Danish and American keyboard layouts on a daily basis. So I learned to pick passwords consisting of only characters that were located in the same place on both keyboards.

                              And that was a time when only ASCII was supported, so I had to keep that in mind as well.

                              The best way to make passwords stronger is to make them longer rather than using more different characters.

                              I am so annoyed by sites that get this wrong. First they reject my 32 character password because it’s too long. So I try truncating my password to 12, 16, or 20 characters (whatever they permit), and then they reject it because I only have alphanumeric characters. Seriously, the password I started with was stronger than such a short password could ever be. So the weakness of the password I am trying is entirely caused by their low limit on password length and not by the set of characters I had chosen to use.

                              A user should be allowed to use a password consisting of only two distinct characters as long as it’s long enough and doesn’t have any patterns.

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                              #61

                              @kasperd @MegaMichelle @CrackMeIfYouCan @kajer @jupiter at one point Linux boot-time FS decrypt wouldn't use the O/S locale, but en-US, so here in en-GB things like @ in pass phrases were... Interesting...

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                              • falken@social.falkensweb.comF falken@social.falkensweb.com

                                @kasperd @MegaMichelle @CrackMeIfYouCan @kajer @jupiter at one point Linux boot-time FS decrypt wouldn't use the O/S locale, but en-US, so here in en-GB things like @ in pass phrases were... Interesting...

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                                #62

                                Imagine how the German and the French would deal with that.

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                                • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                                  Imagine how the German and the French would deal with that.

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                                  #63

                                  @kasperd @MegaMichelle @CrackMeIfYouCan @kajer @jupiter keep two different keyboards on your desk?

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                                  • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    Czech your passwords.

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                                    #64

                                    @jupiter

                                    What?

                                    It's Talk Like A Pirate Day again already?

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                                    • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      Czech your passwords.

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                                      #65

                                      @jupiter And doucle-Czech your password checker?

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                                      • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        Czech your passwords.

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                                        #66

                                        @jupiter 😄

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                                        • folfdk@helvede.netF folfdk@helvede.net shared this topic
                                        • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          Czech your passwords.

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                                          #67

                                          @jupiter

                                          what a great idea!

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