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  3. The British Museum has removed the word #Palestine from displays about the ancient Middle East following complaints.

The British Museum has removed the word #Palestine from displays about the ancient Middle East following complaints.

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  • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

    @Geri "Quinquireme of Nineveh from distant Ophir
    Rowing home to haven in sunny REDACTED,
    With a cargo of ivory,
    And apes and peacocks,
    Sandalwood, cedarwood, and sweet white wine."
    Afraid of a word, they are. I honestly despair.

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    #25

    @capnthommo @Geri The imposition of imperial names for conquered territories and the suppression of indigenous names - e.g. substituting "Palestine" for "Phillistine" is a common process, but that doesn't make it accurate.

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    • vy@mastodon.socialV vy@mastodon.social

      @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri For Europeans, conspiracy stories about Jews are like putting on an old comfortable pair of shoes.

      charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #26

      @vy @Geri

      And for zionists, supporting a genocide and erasing Palestinian identity is like having a morning coffee.

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      • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

        The British Museum has removed the word #Palestine from displays about the ancient Middle East following complaints.

        Maps and information boards about ancient Egypt and the seafaring Phoenicians labelled the eastern coast of the Mediterranean as Palestine, and some peoples were described as being “of Palestinian descent”

        And so the British Museum has decided to remove that word.

        Who do you think made those complaints?

        #freepalestine

        kate@hai.z0ne.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #27

        @Geri@mastodon.online ..UK seems to now have developed a full illness about Palestine with a rash on every face and fever inside almost every brain?
        I would have thought that the name "Farage" would have caused something alike.
        What is this obsession? Instead of defending an unstable description of ideas about Palestine and recognizing actual facts they seem to put much effort into useless scaffolding to support the feverish Palestine aversion?
        Is everybody mad now?

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        • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

          @vy @Geri

          And for zionists, supporting a genocide and erasing Palestinian identity is like having a morning coffee.

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          #28

          @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri But the historical facts are that "Palestine" was a Roman name for the province that they conquered in the Jewish Wars and was imposed on Judea after the Roman genocide. Also, European gentiles called European Jews "Palestinians" after the middle ages. Trying to rewrite history is Orwellian.

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          • vy@mastodon.socialV vy@mastodon.social

            @HarriettMB @Geri
            The word "Palestine" appears once in the King James translation of the Bible, but is not found in other translations. So you don't have to worry. It was a European (Roman) term.

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            #29

            @vy @Geri I’m not religious at all. I was thinking of all those individuals who use religious texts for their justification of abhorrent and genocidal actions.

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            • harriettmb@toot.walesH harriettmb@toot.wales

              @Geri Labour Friends of Israel, and other similar organisations, I have no doubt. They may as well get rid of the entire Bible at this rate - why would any deity be encouraging the people to flee, or to fight when there’s no opponent?
              This is appalling, and the Museum should be boycotted forthwith. So much of the treasures and items there belong to other civilisations and other countries and they should be returned forthwith.

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              #30

              @HarriettMB @Geri You can’t wipe out an historical area by text editing. Next it will be Wessex

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              • vy@mastodon.socialV vy@mastodon.social

                @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri But the historical facts are that "Palestine" was a Roman name for the province that they conquered in the Jewish Wars and was imposed on Judea after the Roman genocide. Also, European gentiles called European Jews "Palestinians" after the middle ages. Trying to rewrite history is Orwellian.

                charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #31

                @vy @Geri

                You seem like the person in the room who says "but Hitler was a vegetarian and loved animals".

                You appear to demonstrate an immaturity, a naiveté, about the wider context that includes

                1. A malevolent group, the UKLFI, pressuring British institutions to make changes in a way that they would not do. The same group that forced a London hospital to be take down childrens art.

                2. The ramping up of the genocide of Palestine, its people, culture, its history, its very memory.

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                • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                  @vy @Geri

                  You seem like the person in the room who says "but Hitler was a vegetarian and loved animals".

                  You appear to demonstrate an immaturity, a naiveté, about the wider context that includes

                  1. A malevolent group, the UKLFI, pressuring British institutions to make changes in a way that they would not do. The same group that forced a London hospital to be take down childrens art.

                  2. The ramping up of the genocide of Palestine, its people, culture, its history, its very memory.

                  1/2

                  charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #32

                  @vy @Geri

                  If the museum wanted to change the names, they would normally do this through a scholarly and consultantive open process.

                  Not because a nasty evil group like the UKLFI bullied them to do it.

                  That sets a dangerous precedent.

                  And that's what you're missing.

                  2/2

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                  • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                    The British Museum has removed the word #Palestine from displays about the ancient Middle East following complaints.

                    Maps and information boards about ancient Egypt and the seafaring Phoenicians labelled the eastern coast of the Mediterranean as Palestine, and some peoples were described as being “of Palestinian descent”

                    And so the British Museum has decided to remove that word.

                    Who do you think made those complaints?

                    #freepalestine

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                    #33

                    @Geri

                    Why not do what Ireland is doing?

                    Ireland to draw up policy on returning historical artefacts to their countries of origin

                    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/2023/06/20/ireland-to-draw-up-policy-on-returning-historical-artefacts-to-their-countries-of-origin/

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                    • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                      @vy @Geri

                      You seem like the person in the room who says "but Hitler was a vegetarian and loved animals".

                      You appear to demonstrate an immaturity, a naiveté, about the wider context that includes

                      1. A malevolent group, the UKLFI, pressuring British institutions to make changes in a way that they would not do. The same group that forced a London hospital to be take down childrens art.

                      2. The ramping up of the genocide of Palestine, its people, culture, its history, its very memory.

                      1/2

                      vy@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #34

                      @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri You appear to represent a common trend for Europeans to believe that making up conspiracy stories about Jews relieves Europeans of blame for Colonialism and Holocaust.

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                      • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                        The British Museum has removed the word #Palestine from displays about the ancient Middle East following complaints.

                        Maps and information boards about ancient Egypt and the seafaring Phoenicians labelled the eastern coast of the Mediterranean as Palestine, and some peoples were described as being “of Palestinian descent”

                        And so the British Museum has decided to remove that word.

                        Who do you think made those complaints?

                        #freepalestine

                        john_loader@ohai.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #35

                        @Geri The chair of the BM is George Osborne a man I trust. I also throw grand pianos as a hobby

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                        • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                          @vy @Geri

                          If the museum wanted to change the names, they would normally do this through a scholarly and consultantive open process.

                          Not because a nasty evil group like the UKLFI bullied them to do it.

                          That sets a dangerous precedent.

                          And that's what you're missing.

                          2/2

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                          #36

                          @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri You have no idea why they made the decision, you're just making up a story that makes feel angry.

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                          • harriettmb@toot.walesH harriettmb@toot.wales

                            @vy @Geri I’m not religious at all. I was thinking of all those individuals who use religious texts for their justification of abhorrent and genocidal actions.

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                            #37

                            @HarriettMB @Geri This has nothing to do with religion but only with historical accuracy. "Palestine" was a Roman word for Judea. It had nothing to with with modern Palestinians and, in fact, European gentiles used to call Jews in Europe "Palestinians" until they murdered most of them.

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                            • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                              The British Museum has removed the word #Palestine from displays about the ancient Middle East following complaints.

                              Maps and information boards about ancient Egypt and the seafaring Phoenicians labelled the eastern coast of the Mediterranean as Palestine, and some peoples were described as being “of Palestinian descent”

                              And so the British Museum has decided to remove that word.

                              Who do you think made those complaints?

                              #freepalestine

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                              #38

                              @Geri Oh wow, is that true?

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                              • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                The British Museum has removed the word #Palestine from displays about the ancient Middle East following complaints.

                                Maps and information boards about ancient Egypt and the seafaring Phoenicians labelled the eastern coast of the Mediterranean as Palestine, and some peoples were described as being “of Palestinian descent”

                                And so the British Museum has decided to remove that word.

                                Who do you think made those complaints?

                                #freepalestine

                                juanpedribus@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #39

                                @Geri el puto netanayahu,y su puñetero gobierno.

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                                • vy@mastodon.socialV vy@mastodon.social

                                  @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri You appear to represent a common trend for Europeans to believe that making up conspiracy stories about Jews relieves Europeans of blame for Colonialism and Holocaust.

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                                  #40

                                  @vy @Geri

                                  Thank you for demonstrating to any readers the weaknesses of European liberals on this matter.

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                                  • vy@mastodon.socialV vy@mastodon.social

                                    @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri You have no idea why they made the decision, you're just making up a story that makes feel angry.

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                                    #41

                                    @vy @Geri

                                    Oh but the UKLFI have admitted they did it.

                                    It's on their own website.

                                    You need to grow up.

                                    https://www.uklfi.com/british-museum-reviewing-palestine-terminology-in-galleries-after-audience-testing

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                                    • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                                      @vy @Geri

                                      Oh but the UKLFI have admitted they did it.

                                      It's on their own website.

                                      You need to grow up.

                                      https://www.uklfi.com/british-museum-reviewing-palestine-terminology-in-galleries-after-audience-testing

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                                      #42

                                      @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri What they said on their website is "UKLFI requested that the Museum review its collections and revise terminology so regions are referred to by historically accurate names such as Canaan, the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, or Judea, depending on the period being described." so they asked for that "scholarly" process. Is there something wrong with that? Is it accurate to use the European term "Palestine" for ancient Cannonite cities?

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                                      • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                                        @vy @Geri

                                        You seem like the person in the room who says "but Hitler was a vegetarian and loved animals".

                                        You appear to demonstrate an immaturity, a naiveté, about the wider context that includes

                                        1. A malevolent group, the UKLFI, pressuring British institutions to make changes in a way that they would not do. The same group that forced a London hospital to be take down childrens art.

                                        2. The ramping up of the genocide of Palestine, its people, culture, its history, its very memory.

                                        1/2

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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #43

                                        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri The use of "Palestine" to describe parts of the Levant was in pre-Roman times is a European anachronism and is not accurate.

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                                        • J justinmac84@mastodon.social

                                          @Geri Jesus Christ!

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                                          #44

                                          @JustinMac84 @Geri eh? How he could be involved if the actual people making the complaints, Jews, were the ones who murdered Him.

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