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  3. Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

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  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
    lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

    Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

    I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

    And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

    Cheers. 🥂😊💖

    theeddieshow@beige.partyT boxofrain@mastodon.socialB janl@narrativ.esJ vyr@princess.industriesV moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM 21 Replies Last reply
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    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

      Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

      Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

      I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

      And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

      Cheers. 🥂😊💖

      theeddieshow@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
      theeddieshow@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
      theeddieshow@beige.party
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      #2

      @lisamelton 🙌

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      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

        Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

        Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

        I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

        And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

        Cheers. 🥂😊💖

        boxofrain@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
        boxofrain@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @lisamelton
        🙏

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        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

          Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

          Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

          I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

          And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

          Cheers. 🥂😊💖

          janl@narrativ.esJ This user is from outside of this forum
          janl@narrativ.esJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @lisamelton happy anniversary, truly a story for the ages, thank you for it all and enjoy all the accolades! 💖

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          • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

            Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

            Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

            I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

            And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

            Cheers. 🥂😊💖

            vyr@princess.industriesV This user is from outside of this forum
            vyr@princess.industriesV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @lisamelton it's a good browser, Lisa. cheers! 🥂

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            • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

              Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

              Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

              I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

              And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

              Cheers. 🥂😊💖

              moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM This user is from outside of this forum
              moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM This user is from outside of this forum
              moira@mastodon.murkworks.net
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              #6

              @lisamelton I was a Safari for Windows user! Until I couldn't be, of course.

              (My main machine was a Mac, but we had a couple of windows boxen for specific tasks, you know how it was.)

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              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

                Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

                I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

                And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

                Cheers. 🥂😊💖

                jgobble@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                jgobble@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                jgobble@mastodon.social
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                #7

                @lisamelton ...and from the day it was released I have not stopped using it. There simply is no better browser for me and the way I use my system(s).

                Thank you, Lisa!

                You are much loved and appreciated for this gift to us all (and many other things)! ❤️

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                • moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM moira@mastodon.murkworks.net

                  @lisamelton I was a Safari for Windows user! Until I couldn't be, of course.

                  (My main machine was a Mac, but we had a couple of windows boxen for specific tasks, you know how it was.)

                  lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                  lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @moira Thank you for being a Safari for Windows user! 💖

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                  • jgobble@mastodon.socialJ jgobble@mastodon.social

                    @lisamelton ...and from the day it was released I have not stopped using it. There simply is no better browser for me and the way I use my system(s).

                    Thank you, Lisa!

                    You are much loved and appreciated for this gift to us all (and many other things)! ❤️

                    lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                    lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @jgobble Awwww, thanks for sticking with it after all this time. 😊🥰💖

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                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                      Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

                      Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

                      I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

                      And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

                      Cheers. 🥂😊💖

                      metaning@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                      metaning@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @lisamelton Have you ever commented about your feelings around Orion? Given it's going to Windows and Linux, it feels like a parallel timeline version of Safari from earlier in Safari's life, when cross-platform was a goal.

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                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                        Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

                        Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

                        I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

                        And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

                        Cheers. 🥂😊💖

                        markmalowany@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                        markmalowany@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                        markmalowany@mastodon.social
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                        #11

                        @lisamelton 🥂 😀 🙏

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                        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                          Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

                          Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

                          I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

                          And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

                          Cheers. 🥂😊💖

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                          tylercheung@mastodon.social
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                          #12

                          @lisamelton 🥂

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                          • metaning@mastodon.socialM metaning@mastodon.social

                            @lisamelton Have you ever commented about your feelings around Orion? Given it's going to Windows and Linux, it feels like a parallel timeline version of Safari from earlier in Safari's life, when cross-platform was a goal.

                            lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            lisamelton@mastodon.social
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                            #13

                            @metaning No, I haven't commented on Orion publicly. And I don't intend to. They don't need a distraction from me.

                            I don't meddle with Web browsers anymore. I'm a game developer now.

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                            • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                              Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

                              Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

                              I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

                              And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

                              Cheers. 🥂😊💖

                              leor1010@mastodonsweden.seL This user is from outside of this forum
                              leor1010@mastodonsweden.seL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @lisamelton I started using Safari last year and had Macbooks since 2012. 😄

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                              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

                                Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

                                I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

                                And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

                                Cheers. 🥂😊💖

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                                ddg@techhub.social
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                                #15

                                @lisamelton Still my main browser. Thank you!

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                                • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  lisamelton@mastodon.social
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                                  #16

                                  @kimlockhartga Thank you! 💖 And you're correct, even our Fascist government can't take that away from me and my team. ✊️

                                  If that effort and its success gave me courage, I sure wish I had transitioned sooner. Instead, I waited over 10 years after retirement to begin my journey. 🤦‍♀️

                                  One thing it *did* was harden my resolve and focus when I finally did transition. And I'm forever thankful for that. 🥹🏳️‍⚧️

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                                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                    Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

                                    Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

                                    I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

                                    And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

                                    Cheers. 🥂😊💖

                                    eliasp@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                                    eliasp@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @lisamelton what were the reasons back then to use KDE's KHTML as the base? Were there no other open alternatives around yet? My timeline might be skewed, but I believe Netscape was already open source at this point.
                                    Did it have some outstanding qualities that made it an obvious choice?
                                    Was it licensing-wise the easier choice?

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                                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                      Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

                                      Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

                                      I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

                                      And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

                                      Cheers. 🥂😊💖

                                      octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @lisamelton Now if we can just re-instil the notion of any changes must make the app faster…

                                      Thanks again, for all the amazing work. 🙂

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                                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                        Twenty five years ago today I started the #Safari and #WebKit projects at #Apple Computer.

                                        Which means Safari is now old enough to rent itself a car. But let's not speculate about my age.

                                        I'm still sad I can't use Safari on my Windows PC. Alas, I lost the battle to keep it there. But at least WebKit's DNA seeded or influenced most browsers we use today.

                                        And I'm proud of that impact. Along with the wonderful team I built who made it all happen. Here's to another 25, friends.

                                        Cheers. 🥂😊💖

                                        cstamp@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        cstamp@mastodon.social
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                                        #19

                                        @lisamelton Cheers, indeed!!!!!! ☺️

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                                        • eliasp@mastodon.socialE eliasp@mastodon.social

                                          @lisamelton what were the reasons back then to use KDE's KHTML as the base? Were there no other open alternatives around yet? My timeline might be skewed, but I believe Netscape was already open source at this point.
                                          Did it have some outstanding qualities that made it an obvious choice?
                                          Was it licensing-wise the easier choice?

                                          lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @eliasp I've spoken and written about this numerous times. And the complete answer is too long for a toot.

                                          The TL;DR is that Mozilla code (at the time) was bloated and slow. Licensing Microsoft Internet Explorer wasn't politically viable. Licensing other browsers wasn't feasible or the technology sucked for various reasons, just like Explorer.

                                          It was truly a choice between basing our effort on KHTML and KJS or writing a browser from scratch. And I knew better than to attempt the latter.

                                          lisamelton@mastodon.socialL bigolewannabe@hachyderm.ioB 2 Replies Last reply
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