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  3. Much as I admire American friends, colleagues and allies, this and then this again.

Much as I admire American friends, colleagues and allies, this and then this again.

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  • suneauken@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Much as I admire American friends, colleagues and allies, this and then this again.

    #InternationalPolitics #Security #UsPol #EUPol

    https://www.readtheline.ca/p/matt-gurney-we-will-never-fucking

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    • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

      Much as I admire American friends, colleagues and allies, this and then this again.

      #InternationalPolitics #Security #UsPol #EUPol

      https://www.readtheline.ca/p/matt-gurney-we-will-never-fucking

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      #2

      "That’s what made the forum so fascinating this year. As I told my colleague Jen Gerson while I was in Halifax, the entire event felt a little bit like the first Thanksgiving after a divorce. It’s great to see everyone, but there’re some notable absences, is the thing."

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      • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

        Much as I admire American friends, colleagues and allies, this and then this again.

        #InternationalPolitics #Security #UsPol #EUPol

        https://www.readtheline.ca/p/matt-gurney-we-will-never-fucking

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        #3

        @SuneAuken indeed. The US isn't an ally. The treachery of Trump is now. The betrayal of Ukraine is now. We can't wait to some post-Trump time and pretend the fascism didn't happen and all go on as before. The only thing more troubling is the weakness and disunity of Europe after we 'outsourced our security'.

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        • drdave89@toot.walesD drdave89@toot.wales

          @SuneAuken indeed. The US isn't an ally. The treachery of Trump is now. The betrayal of Ukraine is now. We can't wait to some post-Trump time and pretend the fascism didn't happen and all go on as before. The only thing more troubling is the weakness and disunity of Europe after we 'outsourced our security'.

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          @drdave89

          I am actually fairly hopeful at seeing how far the EU has come towards acting in unison. I agree that our dependence on the US, including our lack of digital independence, is worrying, but I also see clear and fairly swift and coordinated movement. The EU was never built to be fast, but for now it's doing ok. I am, obviously, not sure that "ok" will prove to be enough.

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            @drdave89

            I am actually fairly hopeful at seeing how far the EU has come towards acting in unison. I agree that our dependence on the US, including our lack of digital independence, is worrying, but I also see clear and fairly swift and coordinated movement. The EU was never built to be fast, but for now it's doing ok. I am, obviously, not sure that "ok" will prove to be enough.

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            #5

            @SuneAuken @drdave89

            I am confident it will be.

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            • oschonrock@mastodon.socialO oschonrock@mastodon.social

              @SuneAuken @drdave89

              I am confident it will be.

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              @oschonrock @drdave89

              I think so, too. However, I have been known to be confident and wrong.

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              • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                @drdave89

                I am actually fairly hopeful at seeing how far the EU has come towards acting in unison. I agree that our dependence on the US, including our lack of digital independence, is worrying, but I also see clear and fairly swift and coordinated movement. The EU was never built to be fast, but for now it's doing ok. I am, obviously, not sure that "ok" will prove to be enough.

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                #7

                @SuneAuken I think all of my pessimism comes from the slowness of the British to accept reality. That is, a reality where the EU is far more important than many Britons, even Remainers, thought. This should speed up greater integration within Europe, but we have a Government who consistently fail to have a uniting narrative in almost every field of government.

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                • drdave89@toot.walesD drdave89@toot.wales

                  @SuneAuken I think all of my pessimism comes from the slowness of the British to accept reality. That is, a reality where the EU is far more important than many Britons, even Remainers, thought. This should speed up greater integration within Europe, but we have a Government who consistently fail to have a uniting narrative in almost every field of government.

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                  #8

                  @drdave89

                  Oh yes. I know what you mean. It would get my goat had I been British.

                  All I can do for now is repeat what I have said literally more than a thousand times on SoMe: You have millions of friends and allies in the EU.

                  Speaking as one of those, we would love a much closer connection and cooperation, and we will celebrate all formal ties achievable.

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