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As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

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  • kevinrns@mstdn.socialK kevinrns@mstdn.social

    @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

    The President of Microsoft says 30% of their code is AI -- and its taking down their OS.

    Vibe Coded Bankruptcy.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/29/satya-nadella-says-as-much-as-30percent-of-microsoft-code-is-written-by-ai.html

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    #18

    @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff Ironically I guess I'm very naive to this, considering I couldn't update off windows 10 due to old hardware so migrated fully to Linux anyway last year.

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    • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

      As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

      Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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      #19
      @rgegriff The window managers (I've mainly used XFCE and KDE) have a lot of nifty features: stuff that could've been implemented during Windows 8 if it was designed by the Powertoys and Sysinternals people instead of a coked-up touchscreen salesman.

      The Metro environment worked kinda well on tablets, but I'm still shocked that Microsoft completely ignored the ramifications of forcing a half-baked parallel ecosystem of fullscreen-only applications onto every desktop, and replacing the startmenu with a fullscreen version.

      My dad still gets fired up when reminded of the Windows RT situation: MS ported the entire OS to energy efficient ARM systems only to ban them from running any desktop software beyond Office and the mediocre pack-in stuff (because they didn't allow desktop apps on the Windows Store).

      The Copilot push is arguably less agressive, in the sense that it seems to be sequestered to action buttons in applications, along with the telemetry/spyware/adware that's been active by default since 10.
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      • thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT thecrawford@mastodonapp.uk

        @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff Ironically I guess I'm very naive to this, considering I couldn't update off windows 10 due to old hardware so migrated fully to Linux anyway last year.

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        #20

        @thecrawford @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff I migrated to Linux (linuxmint) when Windows 7 died, I looked at Win8 and said no way.I have not used Windows since then.(and I don’t miss it)

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        • fabiosantoscode@mastodon.socialF fabiosantoscode@mastodon.social

          @sungo @rgegriff if corporations are people, why aren't hundreds of them in jail?

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          #21

          @fabiosantoscode @sungo @rgegriff
          Because they use their money as “free speech“ to bribe politicians.
          if that sounds like the incoherent ramblings of a conspiracy theorist check out this Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

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          • aadeacon@mastodon.socialA aadeacon@mastodon.social

            @thecrawford @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff I migrated to Linux (linuxmint) when Windows 7 died, I looked at Win8 and said no way.I have not used Windows since then.(and I don’t miss it)

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            #22

            @aadeacon @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff I skipped 8, but still mostly use my pc for gaming which, until recently, could only be done on windows.

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            • aadeacon@mastodon.socialA aadeacon@mastodon.social

              @thecrawford @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff I migrated to Linux (linuxmint) when Windows 7 died, I looked at Win8 and said no way.I have not used Windows since then.(and I don’t miss it)

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              #23

              @aadeacon @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

              #Linux loves immigrants.

              🐧 ❤️ 🫵

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              • kevinrns@mstdn.socialK kevinrns@mstdn.social

                @aadeacon @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

                #Linux loves immigrants.

                🐧 ❤️ 🫵

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                #24

                @kevinrns @aadeacon @T045T @rgegriff I've been using it on and off for work for a decade, just never on my personal devices.

                I've recently migrated a second hand intel MacBook to fedora as it was cheap now they've announced the drop of support for them!

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                • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                  As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                  Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                  #25

                  @rgegriff Microsoft is literally telling their users that they need to throw their computers in the trash and buy a brand new one during the middle of a RAM price hike so that they can continue watching YouTube and playing Balatro

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                  • kevinrns@mstdn.socialK kevinrns@mstdn.social

                    @aadeacon @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

                    #Linux loves immigrants.

                    🐧 ❤️ 🫵

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                    #26

                    @kevinrns @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff I love immigrants, which is a good thing as I live in Leicester

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                    • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                      As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                      Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                      #27

                      @rgegriff look, the whole *point* of running linux is so i know none of my shit works but also *why*

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                      • aadeacon@mastodon.socialA aadeacon@mastodon.social

                        @kevinrns @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff I love immigrants, which is a good thing as I live in Leicester

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                        #28

                        @aadeacon @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

                        The Irish and Scots welcomed Celtic immigrants when they came.

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          @rgegriff look, the whole *point* of running linux is so i know none of my shit works but also *why*

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                          #29

                          @davidgerard @rgegriff the people responsible for my sorrow have names and email addresses

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                          • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                            As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                            Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                            #30

                            @rgegriff Evil. They’re doing evil in evil ways.

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                            • thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT thecrawford@mastodonapp.uk

                              @T045T @rgegriff are they vibe coding updates?

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                              #31

                              @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff slop coding.

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                              • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                                As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                                Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                                #32

                                @rgegriff Power corrupts. MS acts as though it owns our hardware and data, and has the right to open a tap on our bank accounts, when and as often as it likes, witholding access if we don't do what we're told.

                                Echoing Doctorow's words, the 1990s Internet connected us *directly* with things we wanted to access. MS, Amazon, Google, Facebook and so on try to insert themselves between us and the things we want, free of charge at first until there is a cost of leaving, then they slowly turn the thumbscrews, charging us for what we once had freely.

                                We don't need them. But they are good at confusing us.

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                                • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                                  As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                                  Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                                  #33

                                  @rgegriff@masto.hackers.town Point them to Linux Mint.

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                                  • clew@ecoevo.socialC clew@ecoevo.social

                                    Don’t know enough to guess but I’m curious. What?

                                    (BeOS. An unsecured login to a FORTRAN server somewhere in Mountain Time. Your Lenovo refrigerator, overclocked. ??)

                                    @SoftwareTheron
                                    @rgegriff

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                                    #34

                                    @clew
                                    Ubuntu... sorry to be so boring.

                                    The Lenovo box would at least have the advantage of good cooling systems, I suppose.

                                    @rgegriff

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                                    • S softwaretheron@mas.to

                                      @clew
                                      Ubuntu... sorry to be so boring.

                                      The Lenovo box would at least have the advantage of good cooling systems, I suppose.

                                      @rgegriff

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                                      #35

                                      And some of them have big screens and the snacks are _right there_.

                                      @SoftwareTheron @rgegriff

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                                      • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                                        As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                                        Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                                        #36

                                        @rgegriff 'Umm, my computer isn't working too well, and I need something better. What's this Linux thing you keep talking about?'

                                        My father, about 20y ago.

                                        It's OK. I pointed him at OS X -- he's been happy since...

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                                        • sungo@social.sungo.spaceS sungo@social.sungo.space

                                          @rgegriff If corporations were actually people, I'd have called for a mental health check on microsoft a long time ago. Something is not right up in that brain pan and they need some new meds or to break up with that abusive lover or something. Shit ain't right.

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                                          #37

                                          @sungo @rgegriff Satya came in with new age buzzword bingo, focussed on abstract "engineering excellence" while missing the fundamentals (SDET roles). Weirdly the politics became more entrenched and bitter, people focussed on metrics rather than long term goals and no matter how much puck chasing goes on the SLT still think they are smarter than everyone else

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