Modern Dependency Problems (with apologies and thanks to XKCD)
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@janvenetor @kfdm @Floppy no, it has to do with desirable (for the extremists) practical skills like blowing things up. Blowing hot air isn’t anywhere as valuable as humanities types believe.
@fazalmajid @kfdm @Floppy see the linked book, skills do not factor in it per the research.
"We find that engineers are no more likely than other graduates to cover technical roles, such as bomb making [...] What engineers learn at university is unlikely to make them more practically proficient at bomb making than former military or car mechanics. [...] many non-Islamist extremist groups have been skillful at bomb making without engineers in their ranks."
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Modern Dependency Problems (with apologies and thanks to XKCD)
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@Floppy@mastodon.me.uk I feel like this needlessly inflates how many fascists there actually are. every time someone is revealed to be a fascist, it’s a whole news story - because it’s relatively rare.
But because you hear about every fascist who happens to maintain or lead something, they seems a lot more than the thousands of people who aren’t fascist, who are just quietly maintaining something without fanfare or big red alerts.
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Modern Dependency Problems (with apologies and thanks to XKCD)
Probably needs more arrows, tbh
@Floppy Fascism attracts people, because of deceptive beauty, order, and masculinity.
If only demonized, we won’t take away its power to destroy.
I believe label Fascism was created first by outside press in response to Mussolini, not him nor his predecessors.
Fasces is the key to understand Mussolini.
He saw Roman militarism as the socialist unifier, which was influenced in part due to his exclusion from internationalist privileged circles & ironically British financiers.
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@fluidlogic @JdeBP @Floppy at least the fascist doesn't try to hawk you some crypto, right?
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@Floppy Fascism attracts people, because of deceptive beauty, order, and masculinity.
If only demonized, we won’t take away its power to destroy.
I believe label Fascism was created first by outside press in response to Mussolini, not him nor his predecessors.
Fasces is the key to understand Mussolini.
He saw Roman militarism as the socialist unifier, which was influenced in part due to his exclusion from internationalist privileged circles & ironically British financiers.
@Floppy To be clear, fascism is deceptive. It destroys beauty, order, and masculinity.
It places war and other forms of violence as its highest ideal, because of poorly informed history.
With this as its main attribute, it destroys itself or destroyed by its copies. That’s not how the world works, because it exists, creates, and sustains.
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@fluidlogic @JdeBP @Floppy at least the fascist doesn't try to hawk you some crypto, right?
@normjess @JdeBP @Floppy oh God, you joke, and yet...
https://www.upress.umn.edu/9781517901806/the-politics-of-bitcoin/
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@normjess @JdeBP @Floppy oh God, you joke, and yet...
https://www.upress.umn.edu/9781517901806/the-politics-of-bitcoin/
@fluidlogic @JdeBP @Floppy
cryptofascists!
crypto cryptofascists!
cryptocrypto cryptofascists!nooo!!
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@fluidlogic @JdeBP @Floppy
cryptofascists!
crypto cryptofascists!
cryptocrypto cryptofascists!nooo!!
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@fluidlogic @JdeBP @Floppy
away with your fascist earth theory
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I mean, its probably true, but get it away from me!
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@Floppy@mastodon.me.uk I feel like this needlessly inflates how many fascists there actually are. every time someone is revealed to be a fascist, it’s a whole news story - because it’s relatively rare.
But because you hear about every fascist who happens to maintain or lead something, they seems a lot more than the thousands of people who aren’t fascist, who are just quietly maintaining something without fanfare or big red alerts.
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@fluidlogic @JdeBP @Floppy
away with your fascist earth theory
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I mean, its probably true, but get it away from me!
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@Floppy
Isn't putting labels on contributors fascism in itself?@vvilhelmus @Floppy I'm not saying it's *always* mastodon.social,
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much of modern biomedical research depends on tools that were not patented by the people who discovered them
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Green Fluorescent Protein and 2 HybridPCR is an odd exception
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Modern Dependency Problems (with apologies and thanks to XKCD)
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Isn't putting labels on contributors fascism in itself?@vvilhelmus @Floppy "but I'm just asking questions
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@Floppy the code is crucial. The guh is not.
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@kfdm @Floppy this doesn't surprise me at all

Give a person a platform and they will open their mouth.
It's well known engineers are way overrepresented in extremist circles, as islamic and right wing terrorists...
I reckon it has something to do with black and white thinking. And maybe lack of humanities in education...
@janvenetor I feel I need to say, "Not ALL engineers". And I am not one, but I know this is true for ALL large groups, of any kind.
But I did note that there is a common kind of 'engineer mindset' that seems to prefer closed-system thinking, or is uncomfortable with open-system thinking or unanswered questions. If you believe (or hope) that you live in a deterministic, closed system, then it's very easy to consider conspiracy theories and the like to explain complex, esoteric phenomena.
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@janvenetor @kfdm @Floppy no, it has to do with desirable (for the extremists) practical skills like blowing things up. Blowing hot air isn’t anywhere as valuable as humanities types believe.
@fazalmajid And yet, totalitarian regimes attack ideas at least as vigorously as they attack people. I don't believe it's because they're foolish and reactive (though they often are). It's because Bulwer-Lytton was right: The pen really is mightier than the sword, and they know it. As, I believe, do most people, even if not consciously.
