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  • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

    RE: https://vis.social/@infobeautiful/116109430224379547

    So let me get this straight:

    - Solar panels are more efficient and easier to install.
    - They're becoming shockingly cheap, like TVs.
    - They last much longer than expected.
    - They provide unexpected environmental benefits.

    That's a done deal.

    #Solarpunk

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    #16

    @Gustodon
    ...and they still don't know how to properly predict how it will proceeds from where we're right now. Every single one of those yellow prediction line was crap and you don't need to be an expert to see that the latest one is completely bullshit.

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    • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

      RE: https://vis.social/@infobeautiful/116109430224379547

      So let me get this straight:

      - Solar panels are more efficient and easier to install.
      - They're becoming shockingly cheap, like TVs.
      - They last much longer than expected.
      - They provide unexpected environmental benefits.

      That's a done deal.

      #Solarpunk

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      #17

      @Gustodon @corbden even in stereotypically-cloudy Seattle I get a way better return on investment for the solar panels I had installed a few years ago than I would have by investing the money normally.

      (Investing it in NVIDIA specifically would have been better of course but oh well)

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      • lin11c@toad.socialL lin11c@toad.social

        @Gustodon
        They don't require being connected to a grid, correct? That could be a real plus in the future world chaos. Don't need AI either. 😆

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        #18

        @lin11c @Gustodon if you want to go off-grid you need a large battery storage system and those are still pretty expensive and prone to wear. Hopefully sodium batteries will improve that situation.

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        • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

          RE: https://vis.social/@infobeautiful/116109430224379547

          So let me get this straight:

          - Solar panels are more efficient and easier to install.
          - They're becoming shockingly cheap, like TVs.
          - They last much longer than expected.
          - They provide unexpected environmental benefits.

          That's a done deal.

          #Solarpunk

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          #19

          @Gustodon So the Tennessee Valley Power Authority announces they are going back to coal in Trump’s stupid America .

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          • xchaos@f.czX xchaos@f.cz

            @lin11c @Gustodon unlike plastic crap, with batteries, the obsolescence is not really planned. Of course, the best available technology may not be available, for example because of stockpiles of old stuff or licensing issues, but mostly I beleive it is just really because existing level of technology.

            In most of temperate climate zone, you can get energy autonomy with solar panels and battery for 8 months per year, but the winter season would be really tricky, even when burning wood for heating. But selling excess energy to grid and buying it during winter can be way to go. The regulations required for doing this are slowly getting better.

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            #20

            @xChaos @lin11c @Gustodon in seattle the grid storage math works out really well. My power utility just charges me around $10/month for the grid connection (which I’d have anyway) and then essentially runs my meter in reverse when I’m generating excess power, so there’s no real financial incentive to me getting a battery.

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            • fluffy@plush.cityF fluffy@plush.city

              @xChaos @lin11c @Gustodon in seattle the grid storage math works out really well. My power utility just charges me around $10/month for the grid connection (which I’d have anyway) and then essentially runs my meter in reverse when I’m generating excess power, so there’s no real financial incentive to me getting a battery.

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              #21

              @fluffy @xChaos @Gustodon
              That's a great system!

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              • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

                @xChaos Agreed. But we also need to really ask ourselves what needs electricity and what doesn't. I don't know enough about it to say but even the idea that it's always turned on might be an error.

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                #22

                @Gustodon @xChaos heating is a big one I'm afraid, especially during winter
                (However, house insulation should come first)

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                • xchaos@f.czX xchaos@f.cz

                  @lin11c @Gustodon unlike plastic crap, with batteries, the obsolescence is not really planned. Of course, the best available technology may not be available, for example because of stockpiles of old stuff or licensing issues, but mostly I beleive it is just really because existing level of technology.

                  In most of temperate climate zone, you can get energy autonomy with solar panels and battery for 8 months per year, but the winter season would be really tricky, even when burning wood for heating. But selling excess energy to grid and buying it during winter can be way to go. The regulations required for doing this are slowly getting better.

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                  #23

                  @xChaos @Gustodon
                  It sounds like there are solutions. Wind might fill in too? I like these better than nuclear.

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                  • meltedcheese@c.imM meltedcheese@c.im

                    @claralistensprechen3rd @Gustodon @xChaos My water conditioning system consumes more energy in the few hours it runs each week than all my other appliances combined. Without it, the water has way too many minerals and metals to drink safely IMO. There are other appliances such as sump pumps where continuous power is essential. I’m gradually adding power consumption sensors to everything in the house that uses electricity. I think a big part of a solar solution is figuring out what you can do without, what you need for quality of life, and what you need for rare but high demand events. Our houses are also not wired very well for active management of consumption. I think of Star Trek when the Captain says, “Divert all power to the forward shields!” Or, “Reduce life support to bare minimums!”

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                    #24

                    @meltedcheese yes, when at our solar powered location, we tend to plan energy usage according to battery state of charge, even if we are backed-up from grid. Eg. we would plan using certain appliances, cook on gas instead of electricity, or so. Not just because money, but one just likes to use the energy when it is abundant...

                    But during winter, energy is really not abundant...
                    @claralistensprechen3rd @Gustodon

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                    • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

                      RE: https://vis.social/@infobeautiful/116109430224379547

                      So let me get this straight:

                      - Solar panels are more efficient and easier to install.
                      - They're becoming shockingly cheap, like TVs.
                      - They last much longer than expected.
                      - They provide unexpected environmental benefits.

                      That's a done deal.

                      #Solarpunk

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                      #25

                      @Gustodon

                      https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-oil-industry-donations

                      https://www.npr.org/transcripts/nx-s1-5639951

                      https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-big-oil-1-billion

                      This graph explains why the fossil fuel industry is funding fascist movements globally.
                      https://msmagazine.com/2026/02/20/heritage-foundation-women/

                      https://www.desmog.com/2025/03/14/heritage-foundation-project-2025-allies-mcc-ordo-iuris-discuss-dismantling-the-eu-european-union/

                      https://www.axios.com/2026/01/16/trump-power-data-center-costs

                      Their planet-frying business is at risk.
                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

                      They want AI to thwart that switch to solar & wind.

                      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-06/saudis-plan-100-billion-ai-powerhouse-to-rival-uae-s-tech-hub

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/27/technology/saudi-arabia-ai-exporter.html

                      https://www.reuters.com/business/us-authorizes-export-advanced-american-semiconductors-companies-saudi-uae-2025-11-19/

                      https://carnegieendowment.org/emissary/2025/05/ai-chip-trump-gulf-uae-saudi-security-risk-good-deal

                      https://www.chosun.com/english/industry-en/2026/02/02/KAQOZZIMUZH4LDU5PPTZUWGF2M/

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                      • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

                        RE: https://vis.social/@infobeautiful/116109430224379547

                        So let me get this straight:

                        - Solar panels are more efficient and easier to install.
                        - They're becoming shockingly cheap, like TVs.
                        - They last much longer than expected.
                        - They provide unexpected environmental benefits.

                        That's a done deal.

                        #Solarpunk

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                        #26

                        @Gustodon

                        And note Donald Trump the "president" is advocating for "beautiful coal" cause he trying to project "Krasnov" destroy the place.

                        #EndRant

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                        • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

                          RE: https://vis.social/@infobeautiful/116109430224379547

                          So let me get this straight:

                          - Solar panels are more efficient and easier to install.
                          - They're becoming shockingly cheap, like TVs.
                          - They last much longer than expected.
                          - They provide unexpected environmental benefits.

                          That's a done deal.

                          #Solarpunk

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                          #27

                          @Gustodon I hope it becomes a standard component of new builds.

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