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When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

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  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #13

    @david_chisnall @emilymbender I found both OP's short answer and ToC more accurate.

    Presence of "ML", especially at the layer folks are engaging with it at, is not important for something to be part of the "AI" con.

    But yeah in general let's not step in with a gendered dynamic of correcting (or even amending) experts' statements in their own fields.

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    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

      When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

      But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

      https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

      nichol@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #14

      @emilymbender don't forget: AI is automated bias and discrimination for usual or unusual reasons.

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      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

        When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

        But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

        https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

        cptsuperlative@toot.catC This user is from outside of this forum
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        cptsuperlative@toot.cat
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        #15

        @emilymbender

        This comment is here only as a break from the the mansplaining.

        (Also, ty for posting here)

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        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

          @jlperuyero My dude, I am literally posting the encyclopedia entry that I wrote on this topic -- each of those headings is expanded. And yet, you feel the need to correct what I am saying? I'd be astonished at the hubris but then I remember this is Mansplainodon, so yeah.

          jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.esJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.esJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #16

          @emilymbender
          I've been following you for some time, and that should be a hint on my according with your work.
          But if you take a minimal comment, intending only agreement with your message, as mansplaining, maybe you'll find useful adding some "NO INTERACTING PLEASE" banner to your account.
          So sad. So many barriers, trenches, walls and barbed wires set up between real people. No wonder more and more are turning towards IA.

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          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

            When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

            But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

            https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

            canleaf@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #17

            @emilymbender Artificial data collection. Intelligence is data collection in English. So is the CIA not a very smart US agency, but the data collection agency for the US. Intelligenz is in German beyond that. Therefore AI is not smart.

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            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

              When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

              But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

              https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

              tuomov@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #18

              @emilymbender
              As the old joke goes:

              - If you're broke, you do statistics.

              - If you have a research grant, you do machine learning.

              - If you're a venture capitalist, you do #AI.

              And given how the term “AI” has inflated like a third-world currency – what we have no does not merit the term, it's just “generative models” – one may add:

              - If you're a Silicon Valley startup, you do #AGI.

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              • nichol@mstdn.socialN nichol@mstdn.social

                @emilymbender don't forget: AI is automated bias and discrimination for usual or unusual reasons.

                emilymbender@dair-community.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                emilymbender@dair-community.social
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                #19

                @Nichol

                "Don't forget" --- you think I need to be reminded?

                Stay 'splainy mastodon!

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                • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                  When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                  But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                  https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

                  flesh@transfem.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #20

                  @emilymbender@dair-community.social It really is the blockchain of software buzzwords.

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                  • jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.esJ jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.es

                    @emilymbender
                    I've been following you for some time, and that should be a hint on my according with your work.
                    But if you take a minimal comment, intending only agreement with your message, as mansplaining, maybe you'll find useful adding some "NO INTERACTING PLEASE" banner to your account.
                    So sad. So many barriers, trenches, walls and barbed wires set up between real people. No wonder more and more are turning towards IA.

                    emilymbender@dair-community.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    emilymbender@dair-community.social
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                    #21

                    @jlperuyero I have no way of knowing how long anyone has been following me so can't take that as a hint, no.

                    I am not putting up any barriers. I am asking for you to NOT contribute to the absolute chorus of mansplaining that is mastodon.

                    If your intent is agreement, then acknowledge what I said rather than correcting!

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                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                      When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                      But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                      https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

                      malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #22

                      @emilymbender Thank you for continuing to clear up our understanding of the expression "AI", and esp. in important reference sources like OUP. I find I often have to reach for very authoritative sources to back up perspectives that goes against the mainstream infatuation with chatbots.

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                      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                        When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                        But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                        https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                        failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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                        #23

                        @emilymbender

                        when people ask me what AI means, I say

                        A senior PhD with some programming skills said: thanks to AI, I was able to do in a few hours what normally takes a week

                        or

                        Good programmer: I'm not that strong in python, so when I need a python "snippet" I find AI saves me a lot of time

                        or

                        Senior and IMO very good engineer overseeing a staff of 25 people:

                        If you don't have AI skills, or are unwilling to learn, we are not gonna hire you - and that is not next year, it is today

                        or
                        65 yro female neighbor, college educated: I use AI all the time, it is so helpful

                        shrugs

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                        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                          @jlperuyero I have no way of knowing how long anyone has been following me so can't take that as a hint, no.

                          I am not putting up any barriers. I am asking for you to NOT contribute to the absolute chorus of mansplaining that is mastodon.

                          If your intent is agreement, then acknowledge what I said rather than correcting!

                          jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.esJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.es
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                          #24

                          @emilymbender
                          Adding is not correcting. Nothing that you have said sounds wrong to me. Reinforcing should be interpreted as agreement, at least in my environment. And consider that,
                          - english is not my mother tongue
                          - I've never travelled to an english speaking country
                          - I have to struggle with an spanish autocorrect to write this 😃
                          Greetings from the not-so-privileged side of the world.

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                          • jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.esJ jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.es

                            @emilymbender
                            Adding is not correcting. Nothing that you have said sounds wrong to me. Reinforcing should be interpreted as agreement, at least in my environment. And consider that,
                            - english is not my mother tongue
                            - I've never travelled to an english speaking country
                            - I have to struggle with an spanish autocorrect to write this 😃
                            Greetings from the not-so-privileged side of the world.

                            emilymbender@dair-community.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                            emilymbender@dair-community.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                            emilymbender@dair-community.social
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                            #25

                            @jlperuyero

                            Adding reads as correcting: you are saying I didn't say enough/didn't say the right thing (and saying that without reading what I posted).

                            I don't think the issue here is L1/L2 so much as male privilege.

                            You are replying to an expert on the topic and not acknowledging that expertise.

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                            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                              @jlperuyero

                              Adding reads as correcting: you are saying I didn't say enough/didn't say the right thing (and saying that without reading what I posted).

                              I don't think the issue here is L1/L2 so much as male privilege.

                              You are replying to an expert on the topic and not acknowledging that expertise.

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                              jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.es
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                              #26

                              @emilymbender
                              (bows silently)

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                              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                                But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                                https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                                #27

                                @emilymbender I find myself wondering, can we create AI that enhances human labour, that strengthens accountability, that decentralises power? Are @DAIR or anyone else you know working on that? And if so, how can I get involved?

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                                • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                  @jlperuyero My dude, I am literally posting the encyclopedia entry that I wrote on this topic -- each of those headings is expanded. And yet, you feel the need to correct what I am saying? I'd be astonished at the hubris but then I remember this is Mansplainodon, so yeah.

                                  majick@mefi.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #28

                                  @emilymbender @jlperuyero Purely for informational reasons, I already have bro tagged in my notes as "yet another 'akshually' guy." Apparently it's a behavior pattern, and I'm sorry as an authoritative woman in a high-visibility field you have to deal with this shit relentlessly.

                                  At least now I have an excuse to block him.

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                                  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                    When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                                    But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                                    https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                                    #29

                                    @emilymbender
                                    AI is and always will be the villagers in Age of Empires

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                                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                      When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                                      But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                                      https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                                      #30

                                      @emilymbender "Shift accountability" is always the first thing any psychopath notices about science.

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                                      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                        When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                                        But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                                        https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                                        #31

                                        @emilymbender Just started reading the preprint, I had absolutely no idea how catch-all the term AI has always been, nor its origin.

                                        Thanks for sharing here!

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                                        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                          When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                                          But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                                          https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                                          farmersmanual@fff.fo.am
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                                          #32
                                          @emilymbender @x7557x
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