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  3. According to @dansup:#Loops has a dead man’s switch.

According to @dansup:#Loops has a dead man’s switch.

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  • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
    atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
    atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org
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    #1
    According to @dansup:

    #Loops has a dead man’s switch. If an admin does not log in for a week, open registrations close.

    This might seem like a small thing but it’s huge for trust and safety.

    #Fedicon
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    • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org
      According to @dansup:

      #Loops has a dead man’s switch. If an admin does not log in for a week, open registrations close.

      This might seem like a small thing but it’s huge for trust and safety.

      #Fedicon
      skavish@welley.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      skavish@welley.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      skavish@welley.social
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      #2

      yeah, I love it! really want to copy it in #welley

      hopefully it is not patented, lol 🙂

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      • skavish@welley.socialS skavish@welley.social

        yeah, I love it! really want to copy it in #welley

        hopefully it is not patented, lol 🙂

        julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @skavish@welley.social definitely not, I think it’s just a common sense approach to handling abandoned/unmanaged instances.

        There were calls for this last year when spammers took advantage of abandoned servers with open registration and went absolutely nuts.

        Does it rise to the level of an FEP? Maybe if combined with a couple other common sense approaches to forum admin <img class=“not-responsive emoji” src=“https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=8161d5c9b56” title=“🤷” /> got any other ideas?

        @atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org

        @iftas@mastodon.iftas.org may have some additional thoughts.

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        • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

          @skavish@welley.social definitely not, I think it’s just a common sense approach to handling abandoned/unmanaged instances.

          There were calls for this last year when spammers took advantage of abandoned servers with open registration and went absolutely nuts.

          Does it rise to the level of an FEP? Maybe if combined with a couple other common sense approaches to forum admin <img class=“not-responsive emoji” src=“https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=8161d5c9b56” title=“🤷” /> got any other ideas?

          @atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org

          @iftas@mastodon.iftas.org may have some additional thoughts.

          skavish@welley.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
          skavish@welley.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          if we want to signal to other servers that a server is abandoned we may need a FEP

          but it looks like a local feature

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          • skavish@welley.socialS skavish@welley.social

            if we want to signal to other servers that a server is abandoned we may need a FEP

            but it looks like a local feature

            julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @skavish@welley.social my understanding is that FEPs can be informational as well. So a sharing of best practices also qualifies as an FEP candidate.

            @silverpill@mitra.social <img class=“not-responsive emoji” src=“https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/2753.png?v=8161d5c9b56” title=“❓” />

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            • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

              @skavish@welley.social my understanding is that FEPs can be informational as well. So a sharing of best practices also qualifies as an FEP candidate.

              @silverpill@mitra.social <img class=“not-responsive emoji” src=“https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/2753.png?v=8161d5c9b56” title=“❓” />

              silverpill@mitra.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @julian @skavish Yes, an FEP can cover a non-technical topic too.

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              • skavish@welley.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                admin has not logged in into a server for some time - by itself - does not mean much. it is bad only if there is spammer's infestation or smth.

                if there is no infestation then why punish content from this server?

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                • skavish@welley.socialS skavish@welley.social

                  admin has not logged in into a server for some time - by itself - does not mean much. it is bad only if there is spammer's infestation or smth.

                  if there is no infestation then why punish content from this server?

                  skavish@welley.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  I am leaning to authoring fep on this topic. jfyi @julian@activitypub.space

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                  • skavish@welley.socialS skavish@welley.social

                    I am leaning to authoring fep on this topic. jfyi @julian@activitypub.space

                    julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @skavish@welley.social you would only inhibit new content from the server. Better that than risk spam being spread from the unmanaged instance.

                    Happy to help draft/co-author

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                    • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                      @skavish@welley.social you would only inhibit new content from the server. Better that than risk spam being spread from the unmanaged instance.

                      Happy to help draft/co-author

                      skavish@welley.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      will post it later this week for review

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                      • julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        > Realistically, all content from an unmoderated site should go through a moderation filter.

                        I agree with this actually! There is more to federation than an on-off switch. I was talking to @ozoned@btfree.social about it this weekend, about how we have islands vs the open ocean, but we can also have open and closed archipelagoes (archipelagii?) — I forgot about what term we came up with, if at all.

                        Basically, a closed archipelago is an island network of oliphant fame. An open one filters content from servers outside the archipelago.

                        cc @skavish@welley.social

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                        • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                          > Realistically, all content from an unmoderated site should go through a moderation filter.

                          I agree with this actually! There is more to federation than an on-off switch. I was talking to @ozoned@btfree.social about it this weekend, about how we have islands vs the open ocean, but we can also have open and closed archipelagoes (archipelagii?) — I forgot about what term we came up with, if at all.

                          Basically, a closed archipelago is an island network of oliphant fame. An open one filters content from servers outside the archipelago.

                          cc @skavish@welley.social

                          julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @kichae@wanderingadventure.party please help me come up with a better set of terms lol.

                          I think I heard @ariadne@social.treehouse.systems say “neighborhoods” as well.

                          Naming things sucks.

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