Some asshole tried to report my friend @jbrownesq
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@latsss uh. Show me the russian invasion of 2014, friend. Ill be here waiting for that nugget.
Ah, yes, Holodomor. Im surprised that didnt come up sooner.
So you think the same thing right wing ukrainians said - stalin starved them on purpose? Huh.
So, now, you claim the US proxy war currently killing ukrainians and russians is all legitimate because of embellished, invented grievances from history?
Werent we all fighting nazis in the 1940s? You and your family, right? Fought nazis...?
@jbrownesq
and you accusing me in 'personall attacks'I'm not even gonna respond to this scroll of bullshit. Have fun, but be careful with fentanyl
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@jbrownesq
and you accusing me in 'personall attacks'I'm not even gonna respond to this scroll of bullshit. Have fun, but be careful with fentanyl
@latsss there it is. The escape valve.
When something tough comes up (such as you explaining what russian invasion happened in 2014?), and when someone doesnt like personal attacks, you bounce. Right. This is how conversations about Russia/Ukraine tend to go in public.
Most people are just polarized against russia and wouldnt argue with you out of fear of being called "pro russian", but Im not most people. If you have a pro US state department view, you should be prepared to back it up.
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@latsss there it is. The escape valve.
When something tough comes up (such as you explaining what russian invasion happened in 2014?), and when someone doesnt like personal attacks, you bounce. Right. This is how conversations about Russia/Ukraine tend to go in public.
Most people are just polarized against russia and wouldnt argue with you out of fear of being called "pro russian", but Im not most people. If you have a pro US state department view, you should be prepared to back it up.
@jbrownesq yeah, yeah, whatever
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@jbrownesq
and you accusing me in 'personall attacks'I'm not even gonna respond to this scroll of bullshit. Have fun, but be careful with fentanyl
@latsss oh, and 'fentanyl' heh. Way to reveal your personal ideology. Right wing goons tend to babble on about fentanyl, as their right-wing scaremongering news sources tell them to.
Ohnoes did someone put fentanyl in your hallowweeeen candyyy?? Or are you allowed to do Halloween in your compound? lol
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@jbrownesq yeah, yeah, whatever
@latsss exactly.
I bet you didnt expect someone to actually fight back about the history between russia/ukraine/US, did you. Most people are so cowed and afraid to say anything about it other than "uhhh russia bad", but IDGAF about that pop culture mess. I do historical analysis using facts, and I do the <gasp> dialectical analysis.
Did the word 'dialectical' send you into a frothing frenzy?
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@latsss oh, and 'fentanyl' heh. Way to reveal your personal ideology. Right wing goons tend to babble on about fentanyl, as their right-wing scaremongering news sources tell them to.
Ohnoes did someone put fentanyl in your hallowweeeen candyyy?? Or are you allowed to do Halloween in your compound? lol
@jbrownesq nothing personal, I was just warning you. I heard some americans enjoy it a lot, so just thought to share a general precaution with you
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@latsss exactly.
I bet you didnt expect someone to actually fight back about the history between russia/ukraine/US, did you. Most people are so cowed and afraid to say anything about it other than "uhhh russia bad", but IDGAF about that pop culture mess. I do historical analysis using facts, and I do the <gasp> dialectical analysis.
Did the word 'dialectical' send you into a frothing frenzy?
@jbrownesq
> history between russia/ukraineyes, you right, I should have expected a shitton of nonsence from someone on the other side of the globe about whatever happens around me
> dialectical analysis
too advanced words for me, sorry. I'm putting more efforts in reading your nonsence than you in copypasting russia1 subtitles
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@jbrownesq nothing personal, I was just warning you. I heard some americans enjoy it a lot, so just thought to share a general precaution with you
@latsss Ive heard a lot of anti drug messaging, such as "warnings" about drugs, coming from fascists who use the existence of drugs to condemn disadvantaged poor people seeking happiness, and to define "under classes" of people that way. They cant stop themselves from inserting anti drug messaging into any political debate or discussion.
That you?
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@jbrownesq
> history between russia/ukraineyes, you right, I should have expected a shitton of nonsence from someone on the other side of the globe about whatever happens around me
> dialectical analysis
too advanced words for me, sorry. I'm putting more efforts in reading your nonsence than you in copypasting russia1 subtitles
@latsss oh right dialectical too complex word for you but fentanyl not complex word. Ok SNAFO troll lmao I see what you are.
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@latsss CIA had offices in kyiv (but had to move them lol). What do you think the CIA was doing in kyiv?
You know, where the Kyiv Independent is from? lmao The US is funding separatist elements - who hate russians and claim to be the "one true ukraine", so of course this all sounds the way it does.
@jbrownesq @latsss the CIA has offices in hundreds of other countries, are you stupid?
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@jbrownesq @latsss the CIA has offices in hundreds of other countries, are you stupid?
@solonovamax @latsss yes....... yes they do!! Are you fucking stupid???
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@jbrownesq @latsss the CIA has offices in hundreds of other countries, are you stupid?
@solonovamax @latsss can you point out a country where the CIA has offices that hasnt gone through regime change chaos in the last 50 years?
Oh, right-- you would name places like the UK or Canada, wouldnt you. Or Australia. lol.
-where the coups and regime change ops COME FROM.
Except Australia, eh? Oops! Whitlam got replaced by the CIA, didnt he. I guess we do it to allies, too.
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@solonovamax @latsss can you point out a country where the CIA has offices that hasnt gone through regime change chaos in the last 50 years?
Oh, right-- you would name places like the UK or Canada, wouldnt you. Or Australia. lol.
-where the coups and regime change ops COME FROM.
Except Australia, eh? Oops! Whitlam got replaced by the CIA, didnt he. I guess we do it to allies, too.
@jbrownesq @latsss oh, my bad, I didn't realize you had a severe case of brain damage. I think I will terminate this conversation, because I do not wish to be talking with stupid
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@jbrownesq @latsss oh, my bad, I didn't realize you had a severe case of brain damage. I think I will terminate this conversation, because I do not wish to be talking with stupid
@solonovamax @latsss escape valve built.
Wow that "debate" ended faster than most. Nothing else to say about the CIA offices all over the *fucking globe* and what effect that has had on the globe? No? Dont want to pursue that discussion? Okey dokey.
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@solonovamax @latsss and yet you piled into this thread with others, all saying the same US-state department aligned comments about russia/ukraine, and also bow out when the debate becomes too fact-based and real.
You are used to people just giving up, arent you. People being too afraid to talk about objective history for fear of being called "pro russian".
Arent you.
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@solonovamax @latsss yeah.
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@jmaris @notsoloud @kimcrawley ukraine has literally forced people into its military, has nationalized its media, and has LITERALLY put antiwar protestors in jail. I just posted an article about it.
My focus is the fact that the US is sponsoring the Ukraine war, shutting down peace talks, etc. Yes russia's conservative government sucks. Its too bad russians keep electing it to defend them against the fucking ring of military bases and endless russophobia around them. You see this, right?
@jbrownesq @notsoloud @kimcrawley it's called conscription and it's what you have to do when you're being invaded by an imperialist neighbour. As for what you're saying about the media, it's complete nonsense. You only have to read the Ukrainian press to see that they're not under the control of the government. They're extremely critical of the government.
As for your anti war protester, I think you are confusing being pro-russian with being anti war. They are not the same thing.
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@jmaris @notsoloud @kimcrawley not true, and you are immediately suspect when you say things like that.
Nazis are in the whitehouse, true. Nazis are also in the Ukrainian government, and we are supporting and funding them.
https://scheerpost.com/2025/04/23/on-neo-nazi-influence-in-ukraine/
There are DOZENS of mainstream articles on this.
@jbrownesq @notsoloud @kimcrawley if there are really neo-nazis in the Ukrainian government, then why aren't they doing Nazi things? Jews are completely accepted in Ukraine. Prior to the war students of all races studied there. What are the Nazi things they have done?
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@jbrownesq @notsoloud @kimcrawley it's called conscription and it's what you have to do when you're being invaded by an imperialist neighbour. As for what you're saying about the media, it's complete nonsense. You only have to read the Ukrainian press to see that they're not under the control of the government. They're extremely critical of the government.
As for your anti war protester, I think you are confusing being pro-russian with being anti war. They are not the same thing.
@jmaris @notsoloud @kimcrawley which ukrainian press? Show me which one you mean. I would love to discuss it, since I know the MEDIA THERE WAS NATIONALIZED years ago.
Conscription happens when you fight a war you CANT WIN, and you have to FORCE PEOPLE WHO DONT WANT TO FIGHT, TO FIGHT. Did you think... lol you could redefine what conscription means here??
Why did the US (Blinken) say NO to peace talks twice? Zelensky and Putin were going to talk. Why did the US say no?
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@jbrownesq @notsoloud @kimcrawley if there are really neo-nazis in the Ukrainian government, then why aren't they doing Nazi things? Jews are completely accepted in Ukraine. Prior to the war students of all races studied there. What are the Nazi things they have done?
@jmaris @notsoloud @kimcrawley errr I mean, they are? Ukraine was a more diverse place.... before 2014ish, yeah. Actual leftists inside Ukraine dont say its a fun place for leftists, LGBTQ folk, etc, no. This isnt true, and aside from that -- this has nothing to do with the core issue, which is that the US pushed ukrainian separatists (funded, supported) into conflict with russia so that the US could try another regime change bid against russia.
This is regime change.
