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  • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

    First Christopher Miller clarifies, now Phil Lord. I am extremely grateful for them putting out this information.

    tvaziri@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    The discourse is still so bad. It's one thing when internet bozo film bros spread misinformation, but when the trades just say stupid stuff like this it's just so overwhelming and depressing.

    Fun fact: even those movies that you think "rely on 'CGI'" have gigantic practical effects work!

    willhbr@ruby.socialW tvaziri@mastodon.socialT cassandracorvid@mstdn.socialC ravi@social.lolR teeebear@techhub.socialT 5 Replies Last reply
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    • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

      The discourse is still so bad. It's one thing when internet bozo film bros spread misinformation, but when the trades just say stupid stuff like this it's just so overwhelming and depressing.

      Fun fact: even those movies that you think "rely on 'CGI'" have gigantic practical effects work!

      willhbr@ruby.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @tvaziri wait did they not send Ryan Gosling multiple light years away from earth? Hollywood is doomed. I bet they didn't use a real alien either.

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      • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

        The discourse is still so bad. It's one thing when internet bozo film bros spread misinformation, but when the trades just say stupid stuff like this it's just so overwhelming and depressing.

        Fun fact: even those movies that you think "rely on 'CGI'" have gigantic practical effects work!

        tvaziri@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        the piece is worse than the headline and deeply misleads

        TO BE CLEAR:
        - in half the shots in which he appears, Rocky is computer graphics animation
        - Project Hail Mary used LED screens
        - Top Gun Maverick had all-CG jet sequences, the Dune films had all-CG sequences, Alien Romulus had all-CG aliens

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        • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

          The discourse is still so bad. It's one thing when internet bozo film bros spread misinformation, but when the trades just say stupid stuff like this it's just so overwhelming and depressing.

          Fun fact: even those movies that you think "rely on 'CGI'" have gigantic practical effects work!

          cassandracorvid@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @tvaziri

          What we used to call special effects wizardry is now downgraded to CGI.

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          • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

            the piece is worse than the headline and deeply misleads

            TO BE CLEAR:
            - in half the shots in which he appears, Rocky is computer graphics animation
            - Project Hail Mary used LED screens
            - Top Gun Maverick had all-CG jet sequences, the Dune films had all-CG sequences, Alien Romulus had all-CG aliens

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            #14

            I guess writing an piece that says "good filmmakers use the right tools for the right job" —— which has been true since the dawn of cinema itself —— is just too boring for the trades

            gte@mastodon.socialG tvaziri@mastodon.socialT fds@mastodon.socialF atlauren@mastodon.socialA 4 Replies Last reply
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            • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

              The discourse is still so bad. It's one thing when internet bozo film bros spread misinformation, but when the trades just say stupid stuff like this it's just so overwhelming and depressing.

              Fun fact: even those movies that you think "rely on 'CGI'" have gigantic practical effects work!

              ravi@social.lolR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @tvaziri @Gte It’s always the same! The video series should be a meme

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=l5aS5tOcdPubixZV&v=7ttG90raCNo&feature=youtu.be

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              • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                I guess writing an piece that says "good filmmakers use the right tools for the right job" —— which has been true since the dawn of cinema itself —— is just too boring for the trades

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                #16

                @tvaziri Boiling in me is that idea writ large—too much emotional investment in specific tools and approaches, too little consideration for which tool is appropriate under what circumstances.

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                • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                  I guess writing an piece that says "good filmmakers use the right tools for the right job" —— which has been true since the dawn of cinema itself —— is just too boring for the trades

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                  #17

                  it's almost as though this happens ALL THE TIME and it's totally exhausting

                  https://fxrant.blogspot.com/2024/12/correcting-some-skeleton-crew.html

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                  • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                    I guess writing an piece that says "good filmmakers use the right tools for the right job" —— which has been true since the dawn of cinema itself —— is just too boring for the trades

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                    #18

                    @tvaziri I think the web has just ruined company’s idea of how to write about stuff.

                    It was fun watching and not thinking about it was made. I’m definitely better off reading less about films and just going off the vibe of the trailer or comments from friends.

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                    • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                      it's almost as though this happens ALL THE TIME and it's totally exhausting

                      https://fxrant.blogspot.com/2024/12/correcting-some-skeleton-crew.html

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                      #19

                      @tvaziri I'm currently pitching something on the premise that we will proudly announce that it is CGI to say it is not AI.

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                      • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                        The discourse is still so bad. It's one thing when internet bozo film bros spread misinformation, but when the trades just say stupid stuff like this it's just so overwhelming and depressing.

                        Fun fact: even those movies that you think "rely on 'CGI'" have gigantic practical effects work!

                        teeebear@techhub.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        @tvaziri I mean, it’s hard not to use practical effects. 🤣 I mean, if you have a makeup artist, you have practical effects.

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                        • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                          it's almost as though this happens ALL THE TIME and it's totally exhausting

                          https://fxrant.blogspot.com/2024/12/correcting-some-skeleton-crew.html

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                          #21

                          like I said, exhausting

                          (Grogu, in this shot for a piece whose theme is “CGI BAD”, is computer graphics made by computer graphics artists)

                          bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.orgB airboss@techhub.socialA impertinenzija@mastodon.socialI alpacheez@social.bitsnbytes.devA virtualbri@mastodon.onlineV 7 Replies Last reply
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                          • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                            like I said, exhausting

                            (Grogu, in this shot for a piece whose theme is “CGI BAD”, is computer graphics made by computer graphics artists)

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                            #22

                            @tvaziri stopped trying to guess long time ago
                            Love watching the behind the scenes features instead to be amazed

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                            • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                              like I said, exhausting

                              (Grogu, in this shot for a piece whose theme is “CGI BAD”, is computer graphics made by computer graphics artists)

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                              #23

                              @tvaziri I’m sure someone (in the industry) has/had reached out to the author(s) to correct this right? On any of these false claims? How does it continue?

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                              • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                                like I said, exhausting

                                (Grogu, in this shot for a piece whose theme is “CGI BAD”, is computer graphics made by computer graphics artists)

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                                #24

                                @tvaziri I had to scroll a bit: Bahr's piece is from 2019. Back then, in "The Mandalorian", Grogu was a mix of animatronics, puppetry and CGI, she even wrote about it later on. Wouldn't know how else that crib would appear to fly. But yeah, unfortunately the shorthand for "$production uses a mix of methods to animate characters" is "no CGI", just like in the screenshot below.

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                                • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                                  like I said, exhausting

                                  (Grogu, in this shot for a piece whose theme is “CGI BAD”, is computer graphics made by computer graphics artists)

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                                  #25

                                  @tvaziri but I’m just a nobody…the movie industry seems like “big pharma”

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                                  • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                                    I guess writing an piece that says "good filmmakers use the right tools for the right job" —— which has been true since the dawn of cinema itself —— is just too boring for the trades

                                    atlauren@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #26

                                    @tvaziri Alas, pragmatism has no place in the clickbait strip mining rage machine.

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                                    • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                                      like I said, exhausting

                                      (Grogu, in this shot for a piece whose theme is “CGI BAD”, is computer graphics made by computer graphics artists)

                                      alpacheez@social.bitsnbytes.devA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #27

                                      @tvaziri maybe we need better language for what these folks are trying to convey. There was a frustration with overt CGI used in place of traditional techniques (sets that look like they are just green walls and boxes) and now that there is a bit more of a blending of the two (practical backdrops that can be digital altered later, practical standins for characters or scenery for what will later be replaced or altered digitally), as filmmakers learn how to incorporate both for the best result, that is being preferred. Having someone with your insight into the process has been helpful to my understanding and I'm less in the "CGI bad" camp than I would be without your insights.

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                                      • tvaziri@mastodon.socialT tvaziri@mastodon.social

                                        like I said, exhausting

                                        (Grogu, in this shot for a piece whose theme is “CGI BAD”, is computer graphics made by computer graphics artists)

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                                        #28

                                        @tvaziri Also Dark Crystal had so much CGI character work in it, as well as face replacement and augmentation of characters. Such bad examples

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                                        • airboss@techhub.socialA airboss@techhub.social

                                          @tvaziri I’m sure someone (in the industry) has/had reached out to the author(s) to correct this right? On any of these false claims? How does it continue?

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                                          #29

                                          @airboss yes

                                          It continues because ignorance sells

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