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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

    Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

    #ThanksEU

    J This user is from outside of this forum
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    johnrohde@helvede.net
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    #2

    @jwildeboer EU is pretty cool and likely the most important thing post WWII Europe have ever done.
    Perfect, F no, but a big step in the right direction.

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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

      #ThanksEU

      markwyner@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
      markwyner@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @jwildeboer nice. I didn’t know this was how it worked over there. Except for the borders/rights, these things are not unlike being able to move around between states in the U.S.

      I guess I’ve taken that for granted. Traveling across the country here requires almost no thought, unless you’re marginalized.

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

        #ThanksEU

        xavez@me.dmX This user is from outside of this forum
        xavez@me.dmX This user is from outside of this forum
        xavez@me.dm
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        #4

        @jwildeboer all we’ve got to do is fix the cookie thing and we’re golden 👌

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        • xavez@me.dmX This user is from outside of this forum
          xavez@me.dmX This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          @jwildeboer you can’t possibly know but I understand all of that better than you might think.

          It’s the implementation that’s the mess. Leaving this to millions of websites was a bad idea. It should have always been a browser preference. One exists and could have been adapted.

          xavez@me.dmX ahltorp@mastodon.nuA h3artbl33d@exquisite.socialH 3 Replies Last reply
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          • xavez@me.dmX xavez@me.dm

            @jwildeboer you can’t possibly know but I understand all of that better than you might think.

            It’s the implementation that’s the mess. Leaving this to millions of websites was a bad idea. It should have always been a browser preference. One exists and could have been adapted.

            xavez@me.dmX This user is from outside of this forum
            xavez@me.dmX This user is from outside of this forum
            xavez@me.dm
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            #6

            @jwildeboer on top of that there really are legitimate benign reasons to track user behaviour and make improvements to websites and applications, that do require some form of cookies or persistent storage on the user’s device.

            It’s too easy to wave the data brokers and tracking flag, because the cynical truth is that you don’t even need cookies to do that part.

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            • xavez@me.dmX xavez@me.dm

              @jwildeboer on top of that there really are legitimate benign reasons to track user behaviour and make improvements to websites and applications, that do require some form of cookies or persistent storage on the user’s device.

              It’s too easy to wave the data brokers and tracking flag, because the cynical truth is that you don’t even need cookies to do that part.

              wsslmn@mastodon.nlW This user is from outside of this forum
              wsslmn@mastodon.nlW This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @xavez @jwildeboer it's messed up because the sector failed to explain what cookies can do in a way that policy makers and politicians can comprehend and work with. Saving the advertising income from policy driven disruption was a larger concern, and now we are stuck with the banners (if you don't block them, run a pi-hole, and avoid advertising hell holes).

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              • wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl

                @xavez @jwildeboer it's messed up because the sector failed to explain what cookies can do in a way that policy makers and politicians can comprehend and work with. Saving the advertising income from policy driven disruption was a larger concern, and now we are stuck with the banners (if you don't block them, run a pi-hole, and avoid advertising hell holes).

                xavez@me.dmX This user is from outside of this forum
                xavez@me.dmX This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                @wsslmn @jwildeboer yep that’s a part of it for sure. That said if you’re going to pass any law that’s so important, shouldn’t you attempt to understand the thing you’re regulating at a slightly deeper level?

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                • J johnrohde@helvede.net

                  @jwildeboer EU is pretty cool and likely the most important thing post WWII Europe have ever done.
                  Perfect, F no, but a big step in the right direction.

                  veza85ue@eupolicy.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                  veza85ue@eupolicy.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                  veza85ue@eupolicy.social
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                  #9

                  @johnrohde @jwildeboer OK, thank you for that because it's important perspective that maybe this type of marketing is needed and works (I'm not a fan, it's just so... limp, lol! But I'm also not the target audience, I guess).

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                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                    Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

                    #ThanksEU

                    djdog@social.tchncs.deD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    djdog@social.tchncs.de
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                    #10

                    @jwildeboer Norway and the UK have also EU Roaming.

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                    • harbeider@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                      harbeider@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                      harbeider@mastodon.social
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                      #11

                      @jwildeboer @xavez didn't write *that*, Blocklist Hero.

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                      • harbeider@mastodon.socialH harbeider@mastodon.social

                        @jwildeboer @xavez didn't write *that*, Blocklist Hero.

                        xavez@me.dmX This user is from outside of this forum
                        xavez@me.dmX This user is from outside of this forum
                        xavez@me.dm
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                        #12

                        @harbeider @jwildeboer indeed I did not 😅 not worth the energy…

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                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                          Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

                          #ThanksEU

                          ketakater@social.vivaldi.netK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          ketakater@social.vivaldi.net
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                          #13

                          @jwildeboer to some extend, and for people in the EU.

                          Don't look at it's borders though....

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                          • wiredfire@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                            wiredfire@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                            wiredfire@mstdn.social
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                            #14

                            @jwildeboer Ha! Thing is we already had de facto universal charging in that regardless of if the device itself used micro USB or USB-C or lightening everything went into a charger with a USB-A port on it. Then gear started turning up with cables with USB-C at both ends and folk needed to buy new chargers when their USB-A ones were still perfectly functional. And I refuse to concede the often cited notion that carrying 2-3 wires instead of one (which all worked on a USB-A charger) was a problem 😅

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                            • xavez@me.dmX xavez@me.dm

                              @jwildeboer you can’t possibly know but I understand all of that better than you might think.

                              It’s the implementation that’s the mess. Leaving this to millions of websites was a bad idea. It should have always been a browser preference. One exists and could have been adapted.

                              ahltorp@mastodon.nuA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              ahltorp@mastodon.nu
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #15

                              @xavez @jwildeboer Are you complaining about the regulation or the enforcement of the regulation?

                              Where in the regulation does it say ”you have to show annoying buttons to all your users and try to trick them into pressing the wrong button”?

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                              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

                                #ThanksEU

                                photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                photo55@mastodon.social
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                                #16

                                @jwildeboer Also, regulating banks a lot is right on point.

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                                • xavez@me.dmX xavez@me.dm

                                  @jwildeboer you can’t possibly know but I understand all of that better than you might think.

                                  It’s the implementation that’s the mess. Leaving this to millions of websites was a bad idea. It should have always been a browser preference. One exists and could have been adapted.

                                  h3artbl33d@exquisite.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                                  h3artbl33d@exquisite.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                                  h3artbl33d@exquisite.social
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                                  #17

                                  @xavez @jwildeboer

                                  It’s the implementation that’s the mess

                                  Adversarial compliance is.

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                                  • wiredfire@mstdn.socialW wiredfire@mstdn.social

                                    @jwildeboer Ha! Thing is we already had de facto universal charging in that regardless of if the device itself used micro USB or USB-C or lightening everything went into a charger with a USB-A port on it. Then gear started turning up with cables with USB-C at both ends and folk needed to buy new chargers when their USB-A ones were still perfectly functional. And I refuse to concede the often cited notion that carrying 2-3 wires instead of one (which all worked on a USB-A charger) was a problem 😅

                                    ahltorp@mastodon.nuA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #18

                                    @wiredfire @jwildeboer The really nice thing is that you don’t require everyone else to have 3 cables when you need to borrow their charger.

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                                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                      Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

                                      #ThanksEU

                                      nachtpfoetchen@eldritch.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      nachtpfoetchen@eldritch.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      nachtpfoetchen@eldritch.cafe
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                                      #19

                                      @jwildeboer tbh i wish less people would die in the mediterranian and north afrika. i even would use ten different chargers to archive that.
                                      They are two sides of the same medal, and i think it's important to see both.

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                                      • nachtpfoetchen@eldritch.cafeN nachtpfoetchen@eldritch.cafe

                                        @jwildeboer tbh i wish less people would die in the mediterranian and north afrika. i even would use ten different chargers to archive that.
                                        They are two sides of the same medal, and i think it's important to see both.

                                        kate@social.treehouse.systemsK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        kate@social.treehouse.systems
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                                        #20

                                        @nachtpfoetchen @jwildeboer yeah, i appreciate some stuff the eu does, but they also do so many terrible things that way too many people don't care about at all

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                                        • nachtpfoetchen@eldritch.cafeN nachtpfoetchen@eldritch.cafe

                                          @jwildeboer tbh i wish less people would die in the mediterranian and north afrika. i even would use ten different chargers to archive that.
                                          They are two sides of the same medal, and i think it's important to see both.

                                          jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
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                                          #21

                                          @nachtpfoetchen Thank you for accusing me of turning a blind eye to that. You don't know me, but you come in to change the topic. Le sigh. Welcome to my blocklist.

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