Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!
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@jon Norrtåg? They seem to do it *all the time*!
@sebwilken Yes. And I *even had a meeting scheduled with their CEO in Umeå* (now cancelled)
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@jon Damn. Time to adjust your rules then and accept taking a rail replacement bus as long as it is not scheduled in advance?
@tml It doesn't even help much - driving to Boden takes longer, so I get stuck in Boden instead! Although waiting for the next train in Haparanda is even worse in terms of timetable.
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@sebwilken Yes. And I *even had a meeting scheduled with their CEO in Umeå* (now cancelled)
@jon Such a same!! I heard it so many times now that there must be a system behind. When the number of bookings is smaller than x they send a bus.
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So I could...
Change my rules, take a rail replacement bus Haparanda - Boden, anyway miss my connection in Boden, and re-plan and be on schedule by Hamburg - with some buffer
Wait for the next train, and massively re-plan, and rely on a 11 minute connection Snälltåget to Nightjet in Hamburg...
@jon I'd say the train-replacement-bus is fair game here.
That 11 min connection (realistic?) might just cause another missed train later on?
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@jon Such a same!! I heard it so many times now that there must be a system behind. When the number of bookings is smaller than x they send a bus.
@sebwilken I also hear Norrtåg is short of trains. But it massively messes up loads of LONG trips, as then connections in Boden also break. And how did they know I was even here, as I have Interrail?
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@jon I'd say the train-replacement-bus is fair game here.
That 11 min connection (realistic?) might just cause another missed train later on?
@Pepijn If I miss that there's a later ICE to Hannover that catches up the NightJet...
And the Snälltaget, if it runs at all, is quite on time...
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@davidjamesweir @jon 36% of Finland’s territory! (Much less of its public roads, of course.)
@tml @davidjamesweir @jon Are those holes in the sign bullet holes?
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@Pepijn If I miss that there's a later ICE to Hannover that catches up the NightJet...
And the Snälltaget, if it runs at all, is quite on time...
@jon That does sound like a good choice then. Despite the risk and rescheduling you still aim for train connections.
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@sebwilken I also hear Norrtåg is short of trains. But it massively messes up loads of LONG trips, as then connections in Boden also break. And how did they know I was even here, as I have Interrail?
@jon That’s the point, they just don’t care about Interrail! I had one report that the driver even refused to let Interrailers on the bus ("This is not valid here").
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So I could...
Change my rules, take a rail replacement bus Haparanda - Boden, anyway miss my connection in Boden, and re-plan and be on schedule by Hamburg - with some buffer
Wait for the next train, and massively re-plan, and rely on a 11 minute connection Snälltåget to Nightjet in Hamburg...
Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
@jon Option 2! It‘s a record attempt after all, so give us some thrill
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
@jon Yes, option 2
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?
It currently looks like it will be a train...
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@jon Option 2! It‘s a record attempt after all, so give us some thrill
@sebwilken Ha. That's the spirit.
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
@jon I hate to say it, but short connections coming via Sundsvall AND into Hamburg does not sound like a recipe for success. It’s two iffy options, but since you have so much planning for the rest of the trip I’d lean to the replacement bus.
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
@jon How about 3) Go back and start over?
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
@jon My first instinct was the train-replament-bus, as all train companies still claim busses are still trains when it comes to compensation rights.
But: I'd say option two as well as it is doable. And as even with a delay you will still follow the original challenge (and get the fastest time simply by being the first).
Also it makes for better TV and a cleaner narrative!
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@sebwilken Ha. That's the spirit.
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@jon My first instinct was the train-replament-bus, as all train companies still claim busses are still trains when it comes to compensation rights.
But: I'd say option two as well as it is doable. And as even with a delay you will still follow the original challenge (and get the fastest time simply by being the first).
Also it makes for better TV and a cleaner narrative!
@Pepijn The only thing I cannot estimate: what if the 13:47 Haparanda - Boden is *also* a bus? 🤨
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Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?
It currently looks like it will be a train...
@jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm I don't have any deeper insight, but currently the Norrtåg customer-facing ticket sales site advertises also 7185 as "inte tillgänglig" (not available).
