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Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!

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  • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

    @jon You went for a long refreshing walk along the road away from the centre of Kemijärvi?

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    #60

    @tml Yes, to Kallaanvaara, to find this!

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    • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

      @jon @tkalvas Yes, good point. Maybe to emphasise that it is the whole Northern third of the country.

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      #61

      @tml @jon @tkalvas

      I guess it's just a reminder because deer/elk/moose warnings in the south are just for some road sections and reindeer warning is for the whole area.

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        274
        19:00 Kemijärvi - Kemi 22:27

        Distance: 198km (11th of 18)
        Avg speed: 57km/h (16th of 18)

        3 stops:
        Misi
        Rovaniemi
        Kemi

        🚆 mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/eu-longest-train-journey_1427743#9/66.235202/25.965020

        #CrossBorderRail #LongestTrainEU

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        #62

        @jon Is there already a name for those occasions where your train will cross the green line? 😀

        I can't believe Bilbao is basically right on that green line (although you won't pass through that city of course).

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          @thisislieven See the later posts! Somehow GPS is just not working.

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          #63

          @jon @thisislieven this might be due to Russian GPS jamming.

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          • sebwilken@mastodon.socialS sebwilken@mastodon.social

            @jon Here is an elk sign for comparison. They should be taken seriously, elk accidents are no fun.

            Reindeer, on the other hand, are pretty harmless and max a nuisance: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sRsIZiA8AZA

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            #64

            @sebwilken @jon Male reindeer can be pretty impressive size, too. Wouldn’t want to run into a such in a small car. At the very least those antlers will spoil the surface finish, I think.

            This one is in middle Sweden, though. Maybe they are smaller in Lapland.

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              #65

              @jon I don't really know why it's this way. In the south you just get regular warning signs with moose or deer, maybe it's to make the difference clear (and the fact that the danger doesn't stop after a couple of km.)

              Reindeer, being half tame behave quite differently than moose. They might decide to not be scared of a car at all.

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              • sebwilken@mastodon.socialS sebwilken@mastodon.social

                @jon Here is an elk sign for comparison. They should be taken seriously, elk accidents are no fun.

                Reindeer, on the other hand, are pretty harmless and max a nuisance: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sRsIZiA8AZA

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                #66

                @sebwilken That looks like an elk. But the reindeer one looks like a stag.

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Hmmm 🤨

                  The live tracking thinks I have barely left Rovaniemi

                  But I most definitely have, and am two thirds of the way to Kemi

                  I simply cannot get any decent GPS signal here, even between carriages

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                  #67

                  @jon Some trains (for me, often TGVs) just block GPS - the signal just doesn't make it through whatever coating there is on their windows

                  There's being so far north that the number of satellites above the horizon is low, which means fewer with strong signals, which means train infrastructure may leave too few for your phone to do the 3D geometric calculations properly

                  And then there's WiFi assisted GPS, which sees your train WiFi and goes "Oh, that network ID? Forget satellites, Stockholm!"

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!

                    This train journey starts in Kemijärvi 🇫🇮 and ends in Lagos 🇵🇹

                    18 trains, 100 hours 9 minutes, 4008km as the crow flies, 6281 route-km

                    The background to this project is here:
                    https://longestjourney.crossborderrail.eu/

                    And the live tracking throughout is here:
                    https://longestjourneylive.crossborderrail.eu/

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                    #68

                    @jon Can we republish pictures from your trip on https://www.bonjourtchoutchou.fr/ and @BonjourTchoutchou ? (with attribution / license)

                    It's a hobby website made by train nerds for train nerds.

                    In any case, have a nice trip!

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                    • bellinghman@wandering.shopB bellinghman@wandering.shop

                      @jon Some trains (for me, often TGVs) just block GPS - the signal just doesn't make it through whatever coating there is on their windows

                      There's being so far north that the number of satellites above the horizon is low, which means fewer with strong signals, which means train infrastructure may leave too few for your phone to do the 3D geometric calculations properly

                      And then there's WiFi assisted GPS, which sees your train WiFi and goes "Oh, that network ID? Forget satellites, Stockholm!"

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                      #69

                      @bellinghman Yes, but I even went between the carriages where normally you overcome that window problem and even that didn't work

                      Anyway it is back working now. Let's see how it goes tomorrow!

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                      • zorun@social.atypique.netZ zorun@social.atypique.net

                        @jon Can we republish pictures from your trip on https://www.bonjourtchoutchou.fr/ and @BonjourTchoutchou ? (with attribution / license)

                        It's a hobby website made by train nerds for train nerds.

                        In any case, have a nice trip!

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                        #70

                        @zorun @BonjourTchoutchou Absolutely! And any pics I have on Flickr too.

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          Can some Finn please explain this road sign seen in Kemijärvi earlier?

                          Is it "you will only hit elk on the roads in half of Finland"? Is there some elk wall across the middle of the country?

                          EDIT: OK, it's a reindeer herding area

                          But I have questions!

                          The antlers on that sign are wrong.

                          And given I was a LONG way into the area, why do I need the map?

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                          #71

                          So that was Day 1 #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail

                          Here's today's summary video from Kemi

                          https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/62Qy6xoKZXMUecPKx31a6s

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            So that was Day 1 #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail

                            Here's today's summary video from Kemi

                            https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/62Qy6xoKZXMUecPKx31a6s

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                            #72

                            And finally a few photos from the day

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              And finally a few photos from the day

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                              #73

                              @jon oh god, AI is coming for the trains!

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                              • petes_bread_eqn_xls@mastodo.neoliber.alP petes_bread_eqn_xls@mastodo.neoliber.al

                                @jon oh god, AI is coming for the trains!

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                                #74

                                @petes_bread_eqn_xls @jon

                                No, that's vr technology from a long ago 🙂

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                                • petes_bread_eqn_xls@mastodo.neoliber.alP petes_bread_eqn_xls@mastodo.neoliber.al

                                  @jon oh god, AI is coming for the trains!

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                                  #75

                                  @petes_bread_eqn_xls @jon
                                  That was my first thought, too! Was this thing designed by AI? 😬

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                                  • matt_jarvin@eliitin-some.fiM matt_jarvin@eliitin-some.fi

                                    @petes_bread_eqn_xls @jon

                                    No, that's vr technology from a long ago 🙂

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                                    #76

                                    @matt_jarvin @petes_bread_eqn_xls I agree it is not AI as it's old, but what's the story behind it?

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      So that was Day 1 #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail

                                      Here's today's summary video from Kemi

                                      https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/62Qy6xoKZXMUecPKx31a6s

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                                      #77

                                      @jon A Czech transportation web bulletin the Zdopravy.cz noticed your #LongestTrainEU : https://zdopravy.cz/6282-km-ze-severu-finska-na-jih-portugalska-zeleznicni-influencer-se-vydal-nejdelsi-moznou-trasu-v-eu-298396/

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        @matt_jarvin @petes_bread_eqn_xls I agree it is not AI as it's old, but what's the story behind it?

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                                        #78

                                        @jon @matt_jarvin @petes_bread_eqn_xls It’s just a joke by the designer Arto Kukkasniemi.

                                        YLE article in Finnish (from 2006)

                                        https://yle.fi/aihe/a/20-24799

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          @bellinghman Yes, but I even went between the carriages where normally you overcome that window problem and even that didn't work

                                          Anyway it is back working now. Let's see how it goes tomorrow!

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                                          #79

                                          @jon Let's hope so

                                          I've been on ships where the phone GPS thought I was in Sweden when actually off the north coast of Norway, because of that assisted GPS thing believing Google Street View regarding network locations

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