CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card.
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@JEmphatically so if you lose the birth certificate, you're kinda screwed? Doesn't the state have this information in the people registry already?
@loke birth, marruage and death records are provincial juristiction. If you got any if those outside Alberta then the Alberta government has no record. Additionally records before WW2 are not complete due to lack of central record keeping at the time. For an elderly woman born before 1945 it is quite possible that a person coujd be well and truly screwed in this situation.
Same goes for immigrants from places of conflict or political turmoil. For thousands of Albertans this new unified ID has been a Franz Kafka nightmare.
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@samk @JEmphatically I’m pretty sure that Canada’s polical and electoral systems are vastly more similar to Australia’s than they are to the US’. In fact, Australia’s bicameral legislature arguably makes it more similar to the US than Canada is.
I really like Australia’s mandatory voting policy, and wish more countries would implement it, but that seems to be the only relevant differentiator here.
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CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.
She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.
We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.
These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.
*Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!
Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.
This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.
@JEmphatically Good luck to you and her both. I am astonished to hear how similar Alberta is to the U.S.A. I mean, I have heard the comparison many times, but this outcome of voter ID laws you are both experiencing is exactly the desired outcome of proposed federal law changes in the U.S.A. We hope that, if they pass, they will be challenged in SCOTUS because states are supposed to adopt their own voting rules.
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CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.
She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.
We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.
These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.
*Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!
Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.
This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.
@JEmphatically so they’re playing the #MAGA #GOP playbook?
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CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.
She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.
We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.
These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.
*Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!
Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.
This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.
@JEmphatically
I had thought that this specific type of shite was isolated to the US. Pure misogyny. -
CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.
She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.
We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.
These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.
*Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!
Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.
This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.
@JEmphatically I am fortunate because my sister does currently have a BC ID card. However, I dread trying to get her another BC ID card in 2028, when her current ID runs out. How do I get a bed bound senior - who has her faculties but a limited capability to sit for long in a wheelchair - a new ID? I expect a photo will have to be taken in their office. They make it so frickin’ difficult. #DisenfranchingSeniors
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@JEmphatically so they’re playing the #MAGA #GOP playbook?
@blogdiva @JEmphatically Absoluitely
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CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.
She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.
We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.
These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.
*Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!
Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.
This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.
@JEmphatically Hopefully everythings ends well with the success of looking for an ID.
Meanwhile,I am working with #GreenYouthaMovement to empower communities in uganda through sustainable agriculture,conserving the environment and feeding hungry families.
I am reaching out requesting for your help through either donating to support our land for a demonstration garden and increased harvests to enable feed more families and train more people or else help us in marketing our work with your network -
@blogdiva @JEmphatically Absoluitely
@tectonic @blogdiva @JEmphatically Don’t give them the credit. It’s the Nazi’s who used similar methods to push the populace towards fascism.
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CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.
She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.
We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.
These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.
*Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!
Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.
This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.
@JEmphatically In Québec, they took baptimal/wedding certificates from churches that hadn't yet burned down, to create centralised database for persons' lives. So once you identify yourself, you can get your birth, marriage and death certificates.
I was once in a catch 22 where to get new birth certificate, I needed passport, but mine was expired and required new birth certificate to renew. There was process where you can get one by being sworn in to swear you are that person.
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@jamesh @samk @JEmphatically I agree. My point was only that Canadian politics/elections are not American-like, simply because the lack of mandatory voting allows things like this. Most countries don’t have mandatory voting. It would be vastly more accurate, in this case, to say that both Canada and the US have English-like systems, seeing as that is the root system for all countries involved, and only Australia has deviated in this particular way.
Do any, other than Australia, actually, mandate voting?
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@jamesh @samk @JEmphatically well, that’ll show me for not just searching Wikipedia first!
I do, however, find it notable that Australia is apparently unique among these 21 countries in exempting people without a fixed address. So it’s not that it’s impossible to prevent people from voting, it’s just that you have to force them into homelessness, first, at which point very few people are going to complain much about discriminating against them, especially given the current housing situation in Australia.
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CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.
She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.
We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.
These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.
*Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!
Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.
This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.
@JEmphatically and now they are trying to do that here with pretty much everything
That damn save act is the pits (that the legislation here that I have been fighting to insist should not pass for some time) -
CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.
She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.
We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.
These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.
*Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!
Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.
This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.
@JEmphatically My God! I didn't know they'd already implimented those changed there.
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@JEmphatically so they’re playing the #MAGA #GOP playbook?
@blogdiva @JEmphatically Yep!
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@samk @jamesh @JEmphatically I’m not going to lie, I’ve been tempted to commit voter fraud for the sausage.
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@jamesh @samk @JEmphatically that’s good to know! Generally, it seems like Australia does it right!
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UPDATE: It appears Danielle Smith has not yet implemented her own version of the SAVE Act in Alberta.
Even Trump hasn't been able to get that legislation passed in the US.
Elections Alberta's website confirms that government ID is NOT required to vote. You need two pieces of ID, only one has to have your current address and a photo ID is not required.
So the Alberta law on government-issued ID disproportionately impacts women's rights by failing to recognize that women have been changing their names when they get married and will now need proof of marriage before they can get an ID or renew their drivers' licence, but voting rights remain intact. You need a photo ID to access your online healthcare info also.
And they don't mention anything about THAT in the fluffy advertising campaign they've launched about the new rules.
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@JEmphatically They know very well they stripped women's rights, and framing it as those fascists failing to realize it only gives them cover.
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CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.
She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.
We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.
These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.
*Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!
Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.
This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.
@JEmphatically The same thing happened to me in the US when I tried to get my Real ID. They wanted my marriage certificate. It made no sense to me when a real ID is nothing but a drivers license which I have been carrying in the state for 30 years and in another state for 23 years. I can order the marriage license from the courthouse for a fee. I have Military ID so I decided it wasn’t worth the fee to fly domestically. Good luck. Maybe there’s another government agency that can help?
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CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.
She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.
We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.
These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.
*Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!
Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.
This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.
@JEmphatically Identification systems as a whole are messy because a few people abusing it have given those in power the excuse to implement versions that punish very specific people, women being the main people punished. That's why the tradition was to take the man's name instead of the reverse, to trap women.
