CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card.

[2003mugishaphocit@mastodon.social]

@JEmphatically Hopefully everythings ends well with the success of looking for an ID.
Meanwhile,I am working with #GreenYouthaMovement to empower communities in uganda through sustainable agriculture,conserving the environment and feeding hungry families.
I am reaching out requesting for your help through either donating to support our land for a demonstration garden and increased harvests to enable feed more families and train more people or else help us in marketing our work with your network

[justinderrick@mstdn.ca]

@tectonic @blogdiva @JEmphatically Don’t give them the credit. It’s the Nazi’s who used similar methods to push the populace towards fascism.

[jfmezei@cosocial.ca]

@JEmphatically In Québec, they took baptimal/wedding certificates from churches that hadn't yet burned down, to create centralised database for persons' lives. So once you identify yourself, you can get your birth, marriage and death certificates.

I was once in a catch 22 where to get new birth certificate, I needed passport, but mine was expired and required new birth certificate to renew. There was process where you can get one by being sworn in to swear you are that person.

[josh0@babka.social]

@jamesh @samk @JEmphatically I agree. My point was only that Canadian politics/elections are not American-like, simply because the lack of mandatory voting allows things like this. Most countries don’t have mandatory voting. It would be vastly more accurate, in this case, to say that both Canada and the US have English-like systems, seeing as that is the root system for all countries involved, and only Australia has deviated in this particular way.

Do any, other than Australia, actually, mandate voting?

[josh0@babka.social]

@jamesh @samk @JEmphatically well, that’ll show me for not just searching Wikipedia first!

I do, however, find it notable that Australia is apparently unique among these 21 countries in exempting people without a fixed address. So it’s not that it’s impossible to prevent people from voting, it’s just that you have to force them into homelessness, first, at which point very few people are going to complain much about discriminating against them, especially given the current housing situation in Australia.

[em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social]

@JEmphatically and now they are trying to do that here with pretty much everything 🫩
That damn save act is the pits (that the legislation here that I have been fighting to insist should not pass for some time)

[kshernandez@me.dm]

@JEmphatically My God! I didn't know they'd already implimented those changed there.

[kshernandez@me.dm]

@blogdiva @JEmphatically Yep!

[josh0@babka.social]

@samk @jamesh @JEmphatically I’m not going to lie, I’ve been tempted to commit voter fraud for the sausage.

[josh0@babka.social]

@jamesh @samk @JEmphatically that’s good to know! Generally, it seems like Australia does it right!

[taichara@turnipheap.loneknight.quest]

@JEmphatically They know very well they stripped women's rights, and framing it as those fascists failing to realize it only gives them cover.

[beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org]

@JEmphatically The same thing happened to me in the US when I tried to get my Real ID. They wanted my marriage certificate. It made no sense to me when a real ID is nothing but a drivers license which I have been carrying in the state for 30 years and in another state for 23 years. I can order the marriage license from the courthouse for a fee. I have Military ID so I decided it wasn’t worth the fee to fly domestically. Good luck. Maybe there’s another government agency that can help?

[kittenkoder@mastodon.social]

@JEmphatically Identification systems as a whole are messy because a few people abusing it have given those in power the excuse to implement versions that punish very specific people, women being the main people punished. That's why the tradition was to take the man's name instead of the reverse, to trap women.

[bissetwv@mastodon.social]

@JEmphatically About 20 odd years ago all my ID docs, book etc were stolen. I never liked this been a number so CHOOSE to live with out it. A sim card was my biggest problem, only later would the Nigerias arrive and bring them and phones in, under the table. Bank account, opened one, with no hard copy of ID. Don't ask how, ha ha. Then 3 years ago needed one, to go see the Penguins on the famous Boulders beach. South Africans get a better price, I cannot afford the $ price for tourists.

[vervain@sunny.garden]

@lrt_writes

I mean, in the US, they're hoping to strip us of all rights to make choices like that. Probably the same there because patriarchy is at the root of it.
@JEmphatically

[newstik@social.heise.de]

@JEmphatically @TrueNorthSpice What if you changed your name just because? Without a marriage. Do you know what they do then?

[xinit@mastodon.coffee]

@josh0
Except Alberta govt would lice to be in the US. I figure the accusation of American style aspirations holds (even if accidental).
@samk @JEmphatically

[tinygamertris@universeodon.com]

@JEmphatically

Sadly this bullshit is exactly the point. These assholes hate anyone who isn't a cisgender white man and they will do anything they can to stifle voices.

Cannot overemphasise how important it is that you're helping your Mum vote. Keep it up

[tijgertje1987@mastodon.online]

@Npars01 @JEmphatically Of course they target women and minorities. Creeps like that always do.

While my country the Netherlands is not perfect they actually can never get in this situation. Your id, drivers license, etc are all linked to a unique government number that gets assigned at birth.
Even if you change your legal name (marriage does not change it), that number will stay the same.

And every adult will get a (person bound) voting card sent home for elections.

[bevan@mastodon.nz]

@JEmphatically this really sucks but as a naïve New Zealander are there not government records of these documents?!