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  3. CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card.

CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card.

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  • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

    CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

    She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

    We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

    These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

    *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

    Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

    This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

    npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21

    @JEmphatically

    ID requirements target women, immigrants, & the poor deliberately.

    Alberta's oligarchs fight climate action by kneecapping voting.

    People like tax evader N. Murray Edwards who profit from oil wars in Iran & high gas prices
    https://dailyhive.com/calgary/murray-edwards-forbes-billonaires-flames

    https://environmentaldefence.ca/2024/10/31/murray-edwards-the-fossil-fuel-fanatic/

    https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/canadian-billionaire-oil-boss-murray-edwards-moves-to-st-mortiz-switzerland

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N._Murray_Edwards

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/murray-edwards-cnrl-alberta-taxes-1.3568199

    https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/07/04/My-Strange-Canada-Day-Alberta-Separatists/

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    • truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT truenorthspice@mastodon.world

      @JEmphatically

      The rules are the same in Ontario, have been for a long time. It's stupid and annoying and another reason to keep one's surname after marrying ..unfortunately when your mom was married it was unheard of to keep one's maiden name.

      lynnd@cosocial.caL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #22

      @TrueNorthSpice one thing about Ontario is that you do not need photo ID to vote (at least not yet).

      https://www.elections.on.ca/en/voting-in-ontario/id-to-vote-in-provincial-elections.html#accordionIDtovote

      @JEmphatically

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      • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

        CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

        She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

        We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

        These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

        *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

        Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

        This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

        nomdeb@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #23

        @JEmphatically Very glad I did all the paperwork to get my passport with my married name before the Trump administration nonsense as they're attempting this here in the USA. I'll be sure to NOT let that lapse. My USA naturalization is in my former married name, which I kept after my divorce, so it's a daisy chain of names in my case, as I'm hyphenated with my maiden name and husband's surname now.

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        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

          @JEmphatically

          ID requirements target women, immigrants, & the poor deliberately.

          Alberta's oligarchs fight climate action by kneecapping voting.

          People like tax evader N. Murray Edwards who profit from oil wars in Iran & high gas prices
          https://dailyhive.com/calgary/murray-edwards-forbes-billonaires-flames

          https://environmentaldefence.ca/2024/10/31/murray-edwards-the-fossil-fuel-fanatic/

          https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/canadian-billionaire-oil-boss-murray-edwards-moves-to-st-mortiz-switzerland

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N._Murray_Edwards

          https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/murray-edwards-cnrl-alberta-taxes-1.3568199

          https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/07/04/My-Strange-Canada-Day-Alberta-Separatists/

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          #24

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          N. Murray Edwards
          Canada · 66y · Eurofins Scientific, Canadian Natural Resources, BT Group, Vodafone-GBP, AT&T, Advantage Oil & Gas, Arc Resources, AstraZeneca, Baytex Energy, British Amer Tobacco, Calfrac Well Services, Cardinal Energy, Diageo, Ensign Energy, Forza Petroleum, Freehold Royalties, Imperial Metals, InPlay Oil, Magellan Aerospace, Parex Resources, Precision Drilling, RF Capital, Rogers Communications, Suncor Energy, Superior Plus, Topaz Energy, Tourmaline Oil, TransAlta
          $4.98B

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          • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

            CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

            She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

            We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

            These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

            *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

            Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

            This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

            amgine@mamot.frA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #25

            @JEmphatically

            For reasons, my partner and I chose a new surname. In a different country.

            I am reasonably sure I could not get a legal copy of the document chain to 'prove' the changes within 3 months.

            I certainly hope #ACLRC have lawyers briefed and ready to challenge the changes. It sounds to me *prima facie* to violate the Charter.

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            • lynnd@cosocial.caL lynnd@cosocial.ca

              @TrueNorthSpice one thing about Ontario is that you do not need photo ID to vote (at least not yet).

              https://www.elections.on.ca/en/voting-in-ontario/id-to-vote-in-provincial-elections.html#accordionIDtovote

              @JEmphatically

              truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #26

              @LynnD @JEmphatically

              That's true, but it shouldn't have been that difficult to exchange provincial IDs

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              • nomdeb@mstdn.socialN nomdeb@mstdn.social

                @JEmphatically Very glad I did all the paperwork to get my passport with my married name before the Trump administration nonsense as they're attempting this here in the USA. I'll be sure to NOT let that lapse. My USA naturalization is in my former married name, which I kept after my divorce, so it's a daisy chain of names in my case, as I'm hyphenated with my maiden name and husband's surname now.

                jemphatically@mstdn.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #27

                @nomdeb Alberta's government came up with the idea of "one ID" for all - your driver's licence, health care card, and proof of citizenship. If you don't drive, you can get a generic ID card, but that also must include your health care number and citizenship status.

                So, in effect you can't get any government ID renewed without switching to the one ID card version. You must prove citizenship or the card will be marked as non-citizen, which means you won't be able to access certain programs or vote. It's a diabolical workaround of people's rights. Our premier talks on a weekly basis with the US ambassador to Canada and I can't help but wonder if they don't share strategies.

                CORRECTION: There’s a way around the voting issue. As of today, you can vote WITHOUT using govt issued ID. As of today...

                See the Elections Alberta website and order your mail-in ballot for the easiest way to vote this October. Yay!

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                • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                  CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                  She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                  We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                  These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                  *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                  Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                  This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

                  humourmetom@newsie.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #28

                  @JEmphatically Sounds suspiciously like the U.S., just like a lot of stuff happening in Alberta these days

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                  • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                    CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                    She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                    We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                    These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                    *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                    Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                    This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

                    nixanadoo@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    nixanadoo@mastodon.social
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                    #29

                    @JEmphatically Y'all need to stop copying our awful bullshit below you. I'm glad you found her certificate!!

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                    • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                      CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                      She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                      We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                      These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                      *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                      Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                      This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

                      loke@functional.cafeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #30

                      @JEmphatically so if you lose the birth certificate, you're kinda screwed? Doesn't the state have this information in the people registry already?

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                      • nixanadoo@mastodon.socialN nixanadoo@mastodon.social

                        @JEmphatically Y'all need to stop copying our awful bullshit below you. I'm glad you found her certificate!!

                        jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #31

                        @nixanadoo

                        Danielle Smith (Premier of Alberta) copies it on purpose. She's not a good faith leader. Not by far.

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                        • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                          @nixanadoo

                          Danielle Smith (Premier of Alberta) copies it on purpose. She's not a good faith leader. Not by far.

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                          #32

                          @jmcrookston That's as shitty for y'all as it is for us, my sympathies.

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                          • nixanadoo@mastodon.socialN nixanadoo@mastodon.social

                            @jmcrookston That's as shitty for y'all as it is for us, my sympathies.

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                            #33

                            @nixanadoo

                            Yeah it's a worldwide problem right now. Looks like humans were living the good life after World War II and didn't realize it. Now we're deviating back to the mean.

                            Anyway she pushes white supremacist stuff up here. I'm just east of her (in Ontario) with someone who's only slightly better. Less white supremacy perhaps but still with all the corruption.

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                            • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                              @nixanadoo

                              Yeah it's a worldwide problem right now. Looks like humans were living the good life after World War II and didn't realize it. Now we're deviating back to the mean.

                              Anyway she pushes white supremacist stuff up here. I'm just east of her (in Ontario) with someone who's only slightly better. Less white supremacy perhaps but still with all the corruption.

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                              #34

                              @jmcrookston There seems to be a multitude of flavours of fascism these days. So many options!

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                              • nixanadoo@mastodon.socialN nixanadoo@mastodon.social

                                @jmcrookston There seems to be a multitude of flavours of fascism these days. So many options!

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                                #35

                                @nixanadoo

                                I know. Sometimes I feel just like a kid in a Nazi shop.

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                                • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                                  @nixanadoo

                                  I know. Sometimes I feel just like a kid in a Nazi shop.

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                                  #36

                                  @jmcrookston 50/50 laugh/cry

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                                  • loke@functional.cafeL loke@functional.cafe

                                    @JEmphatically so if you lose the birth certificate, you're kinda screwed? Doesn't the state have this information in the people registry already?

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                                    #37
                                    @loke @JEmphatically They do, and I think marriages are also recorded.

                                    This is pure deliberate obstructivism.
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                                    • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                                      CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                                      She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                                      We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                                      These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                                      *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                                      Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                                      This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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                                      #38

                                      @JEmphatically How many of yall are saying "Where the fuck are we, America?

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                                      • loke@functional.cafeL loke@functional.cafe

                                        @JEmphatically so if you lose the birth certificate, you're kinda screwed? Doesn't the state have this information in the people registry already?

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                                        #39

                                        @loke birth, marruage and death records are provincial juristiction. If you got any if those outside Alberta then the Alberta government has no record. Additionally records before WW2 are not complete due to lack of central record keeping at the time. For an elderly woman born before 1945 it is quite possible that a person coujd be well and truly screwed in this situation.

                                        Same goes for immigrants from places of conflict or political turmoil. For thousands of Albertans this new unified ID has been a Franz Kafka nightmare.

                                        @JEmphatically

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                                          #40

                                          @samk @JEmphatically I’m pretty sure that Canada’s polical and electoral systems are vastly more similar to Australia’s than they are to the US’. In fact, Australia’s bicameral legislature arguably makes it more similar to the US than Canada is.

                                          I really like Australia’s mandatory voting policy, and wish more countries would implement it, but that seems to be the only relevant differentiator here.

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