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  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

    if only we had lots and lots of examples of easier systems projects using similar techniques that entirely failed and now don’t exist as functioning projects

    what are bun and rsync, why do you keep saying those names

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    #13

    @zzt but it's the future!! Look how big PR we can make now in the future!

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      I really liked having fully working linux systems for… like 7 out of the 30+ years I’ve been using this fucking thing

      we even briefly got gaming before they decided to come and fuck it all up in exchange for money

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      #14

      maybe one day we’ll tell the next generation what it was like owning hardware and briefly having an operating system that mostly wasn’t entirely terrible to use

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      • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

        @zzt you're right to push back on that, i shouldn't have force pushed deleting all branches on the server

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        #15

        @zzt do you remember when that was a new thing and we literally couldn't believe it could be that bad?

        and now we just can't believe it's still that bad.

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        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

          maybe one day we’ll tell the next generation what it was like owning hardware and briefly having an operating system that mostly wasn’t entirely terrible to use

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          #16

          but nah, I’m sure it’ll be fine, I keep seeing the take on here that somehow the kernel doesn’t matter at all for a desktop and nobody will notice when it breaks

          you know, the code that literally all of your applications call into, that makes all your hardware work

          the thing that was the point of being on linux at all

          the kernel????

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          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

            but nah, I’m sure it’ll be fine, I keep seeing the take on here that somehow the kernel doesn’t matter at all for a desktop and nobody will notice when it breaks

            you know, the code that literally all of your applications call into, that makes all your hardware work

            the thing that was the point of being on linux at all

            the kernel????

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            #17

            imagine traveling back to 2001 and going “nah the kernel doesn’t really matter” around any of these people

            they’d cut you with a fucking knife

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            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

              imagine traveling back to 2001 and going “nah the kernel doesn’t really matter” around any of these people

              they’d cut you with a fucking knife

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              do you think any of the guys telling me I’m engaging in conspiratorial thought or whatever for pointing out who’s paying torvalds to do this shit will feel anything at all when they read “thank you Meta” in this bizarre fucking post? nah can’t be anything, the Linux Foundation doesn’t own the kernel somehow even though they own the guy who owns the kernel

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              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                imagine traveling back to 2001 and going “nah the kernel doesn’t really matter” around any of these people

                they’d cut you with a fucking knife

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                #19

                @zzt we will make a better kernel

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                • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                  @zzt we will make a better kernel

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                  @hipsterelectron I would like to!

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                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                    @hipsterelectron I would like to!

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                    @hipsterelectron also you’re going to hate the elisp I’m writing

                    but crucially it’ll probably be done enough to share soon

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                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                      imagine traveling back to 2001 and going “nah the kernel doesn’t really matter” around any of these people

                      they’d cut you with a fucking knife

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                      @zzt the people of 2001 had been violently disabused of this notion before it could form by the infliction of Windows ME and its garbage-ass kernel.

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                      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                        do you think any of the guys telling me I’m engaging in conspiratorial thought or whatever for pointing out who’s paying torvalds to do this shit will feel anything at all when they read “thank you Meta” in this bizarre fucking post? nah can’t be anything, the Linux Foundation doesn’t own the kernel somehow even though they own the guy who owns the kernel

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                        @zzt "Are we the baddies" walked so that "Thank you Meta" could run.

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                        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                          @hipsterelectron also you’re going to hate the elisp I’m writing

                          but crucially it’ll probably be done enough to share soon

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                          @zzt counterpoint: all elisp is holy

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                            @otte_homan I don’t think any of the kernel devs have the capability of having ideas anymore, their brains are dripping out of their ears live on the lkml

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                            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                              do you think any of the guys telling me I’m engaging in conspiratorial thought or whatever for pointing out who’s paying torvalds to do this shit will feel anything at all when they read “thank you Meta” in this bizarre fucking post? nah can’t be anything, the Linux Foundation doesn’t own the kernel somehow even though they own the guy who owns the kernel

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                              @zzt@mas.to

                              Clearly the kernel doesn't matter because we're all just running everything in a virtual little box that can't see anything else and the kernel is in fact just a host for endless amounts of these boxes and nobody ever actually runs software natively right? In fact clearly the web browser should just be the kernel right? Nobody has ever used "software" before, just "apps" and apps live on the web, right? Guys I'm a fuckin genius give me 10 splebtillion dollars I have invented the future of computing. /s

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                              • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                                @zzt we are so fucked

                                things fall apart, the kernel cannot hold

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                                #27

                                @bstacey @zzt the end of that stanza:
                                “The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                                The best lack all conviction , while the worst
                                Are full of passionate intensity.”

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                                • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                                  @bstacey @zzt the end of that stanza:
                                  “The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                                  The best lack all conviction , while the worst
                                  Are full of passionate intensity.”

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                                  @bstacey @zzt just wanted to write code and play video games, man… instead there’s slop in my editor, and the fork of my editor, and in my kernel…

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                                  • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                                    @zzt the people of 2001 had been violently disabused of this notion before it could form by the infliction of Windows ME and its garbage-ass kernel.

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                                    @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                                    Apparently learning from the mistakes of the past which taught us that kernels do in fact matter quite a bit is weak and "social warrior" shit and we should just be ok if the thing All of Software runs on by definition just becomes a useless and broken pile of shit because they let the chatbot rewrite it all based on a plagiarized version of itself.

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                                    • daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.netD daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.net

                                      @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                                      Apparently learning from the mistakes of the past which taught us that kernels do in fact matter quite a bit is weak and "social warrior" shit and we should just be ok if the thing All of Software runs on by definition just becomes a useless and broken pile of shit because they let the chatbot rewrite it all based on a plagiarized version of itself.

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                                      @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                                      Even when translating to what the phrase is poorly trying to pretend to be different from, I have absolutely no fucking clue what "social warrior project" is meant to convey because "social justice warrior project" is just not a phrase I can make any sense out of. It doesn't scan at all.

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                                      • daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.netD daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.net

                                        @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                                        Even when translating to what the phrase is poorly trying to pretend to be different from, I have absolutely no fucking clue what "social warrior project" is meant to convey because "social justice warrior project" is just not a phrase I can make any sense out of. It doesn't scan at all.

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                                        @daemonspudguy @zzt I mean, also isn’t the idea of a high-quality kernel that supports older hardware (I know they just dropped like first-gen Pentiums and there was some furor over it) all free of charge kind of a social good thing if not social “justice”?

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                                        • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

                                          @zzt do you remember when that was a new thing and we literally couldn't believe it could be that bad?

                                          and now we just can't believe it's still that bad.

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                                          @dysfun @zzt

                                          Pessimistically, I am just dreading however they make it worse. This is gonna go just peachy, I'm sure.

                                          tired of this shit

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