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    #7

    @rayckeith that’s what #ubi does

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      @rayckeith And free people are bad for parasitic, exploitative business owners.

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        #9

        @rayckeith The other perspective, compared with other European countries, is that Norway is more business friendly, having less red tape for one. It's comparatively easier to start and run a business, and for example, they don't have universal minimum wage, this being decided on a sector-by-sector basis, as a dialogue between employers and trade unions, and this ends up benefiting everyone; as industry can adapt to changing conditions, yet it keeps wages high.

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          #10

          @rayckeith but in Germany, the bestest lapdog of the US, big money does not even want free people. They want slaves, like the USDaddy. And that allone explains kinda anything.

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            #11

            @rayckeith who specifically said safety nets make people stop trying? if you bring them to my garage I can fix their lying problem in 5 minutes, guaranteed.

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            • falcennial@mastodon.socialF falcennial@mastodon.social

              @rayckeith who specifically said safety nets make people stop trying? if you bring them to my garage I can fix their lying problem in 5 minutes, guaranteed.

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              @rayckeith I am serious. I want to know their names.

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                #13

                @rayckeith
                It's been a tradition that every two or three years some international body would warn that the Danish social safety net was too generous and would bring us to ruin.

                Today, after decades of ignoring them, Denmark has an AAA credit rating.

                I haven't actually read another one of those the last couple of years. Should I start worrying, or am I just out of touch?

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                  @rayckeith @falcennial This is one of those things that many, MANY Americans will always be against, despite it benefiting the working class directly, entirely because the term “socialism” has been so vigorously demonized there.

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                    #15

                    @rayckeith That's why german government plans to take away the last bits of safety net rn. They don't want their population free, they want their population desperate. So desperate that they take even the most disgustingly underpaid jobs.

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                    • falcennial@mastodon.socialF falcennial@mastodon.social

                      @rayckeith who specifically said safety nets make people stop trying? if you bring them to my garage I can fix their lying problem in 5 minutes, guaranteed.

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                      #16

                      @falcennial
                      Most of the USA. large parts of Canada. Even the poor. It is pathetically sad.

                      @rayckeith

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                        #17

                        @rayckeith Exactly. A safety net just means that if you fall off the tightrope, you won't die. It doesn't mean you're going to stay in the net forever. And even in the rare occasions where people just give up and live off the safety net, that's still better than having destitute people in your communities.

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                          @rayckeith You think American business owners want those things for their workers?

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                            #19

                            @rayckeith yes

                            https://www.quora.com/If-the-USA-had-a-universal-healthcare-system-would-entrepreneurship-increase/answer/Ben-Curthoys?ch=10&oid=261472715&share=067004ae&srid=3orcX&target_type=answer

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