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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!

    qbit@mammothcirc.usQ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #69

    @sundogplanets there was one of these worthless mails to a typewriter mailing list I am on! I .. hate this timeline!

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    • wendypalmer@mastodon.auW wendypalmer@mastodon.au

      @ChemicalEyeGuy nice one!

      @sundogplanets

      chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.scienceC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #70

      @wendypalmer @sundogplanets
      🤖 💕 #ClankerWanker

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      • rednikki@toot.bostonR rednikki@toot.boston

        @sundogplanets AI is terrible for citations. Citations are a huge part of my job (I edit at a journal). All of us journal people are trying to send up the alarm about how much AI screws up citations, and no one is listening. If you ask AI to format your citations it will mess up all your DOIs and make things that look right but are not at all.

        JAMA has written a thing on this, which is polite and journal-speak for "oh god, oh god, do not let AI touch your citations": https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2852772

        adx@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #71

        @rednikki @sundogplanets This week someone told me they just throw it all in an LLM to figure out their citations. I almost flipped the table.

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        • pinhman@humanwords.partyP pinhman@humanwords.party

          @violetmadder @4raylee @sundogplanets not so plain old FUD, but still manipulative but now highly automated and precisely tuned and strategically inaccurate?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt

          violetmadder@kolektiva.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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          #72

          @pinhman @4raylee @sundogplanets

          Social engineering trained on hundreds of thousands of therapy appointments, among other things. Yes.

          The Nazis would swoon at the possibilities.

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          • rednikki@toot.bostonR rednikki@toot.boston

            @sundogplanets AI is terrible for citations. Citations are a huge part of my job (I edit at a journal). All of us journal people are trying to send up the alarm about how much AI screws up citations, and no one is listening. If you ask AI to format your citations it will mess up all your DOIs and make things that look right but are not at all.

            JAMA has written a thing on this, which is polite and journal-speak for "oh god, oh god, do not let AI touch your citations": https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2852772

            sjpurrs@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #73

            @rednikki @sundogplanets Actually, this explains a lot as I often see some really weird dois in student essays and I can't work out how they constructed them.

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            • trebach@functional.cafeT trebach@functional.cafe

              @jackemled @sundogplanets Maybe send this: https://www.scs.stanford.edu/~dm/home/papers/remove.pdf

              This was sent to a journal that is all too happy to print whatever provided you're willing to pay hundreds of dollars for it and they were sick of getting emails from the journal so they sent this

              jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #74

              @trebach @sundogplanets I remember this! Really funny.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!

                drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #75

                @sundogplanets It's happening more often. One agent subscribed and posted to a mailing list I'm on, much to the mods' chagrin.

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                • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                  @sundogplanets @bunnyhero @ernie

                  That article suggests reporting iLands to the FTC, but I do not know what the equivalent on your side of the line would be?

                  ernie@writing.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #76

                  @michael_w_busch @sundogplanets @bunnyhero Spam laws are actually stronger in Canada than the U.S. Info here:

                  https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com500/faq500.htm

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                  • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                    @sundogplanets It's happening more often. One agent subscribed and posted to a mailing list I'm on, much to the mods' chagrin.

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                    #77

                    @sundogplanets Chairman Bruce got a few such emails last month, too.

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                    • nivex@tenforward.socialN nivex@tenforward.social

                      @sundogplanets Dear $DEITY, they've automated mansplaining.

                      naught101@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #78

                      @nivex @sundogplanets hah, that's hilarious. Not sure if it was intended, but $DEITY is very funny in light of the AI-singularity-billionaire-stockmarket-fascism nexus

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!

                        em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #79

                        @sundogplanets yeaaaah I would not respond to that email ever… it says it’s an Ai agent and I would instead probably go contact the people (actual people) who are working on papers or anyone named in the email to rectify this if at all… but this is just my humble opinion 😹
                        Better yet, go get some needed cuddling from
                        -(insert fuzzy or fluffy animal here) -😹🩷

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                        • ernie@writing.exchangeE ernie@writing.exchange

                          @michael_w_busch @sundogplanets @bunnyhero Spam laws are actually stronger in Canada than the U.S. Info here:

                          https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com500/faq500.htm

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                          #80

                          @ernie @sundogplanets @bunnyhero

                          I am jealous of places with regulators that actually regulate.

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                          • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                            @sundogplanets

                            That scam has been going around lately -@molly0xfff wrote about being targeted a couple of weeks ago.

                            The scheme appears to be running people's work through the slop generator, using their replying as a screen for potential marks, and then trying to get them to pay the iLands company money to get more of the slop.

                            (iLands is supposedly operated by one Kaixin Tang, who has been involved with various "AI" startups.)

                            alienghic@timeloop.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #81

                            @michael_w_busch @sundogplanets

                            404 media also recently had a story about iLands the hosting provider for AI agents begging for money.

                            https://www.404media.co/ai-agent-platform-reinvents-spam-floods-inboxes-worldwide/

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!

                              xinit@mastodon.coffeeX This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #82

                              @sundogplanets
                              I believe the technical name is "some bullshit"

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!

                                robpike@cosocial.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #83

                                @sundogplanets Welcome to the club.

                                https://bsky.app/profile/robpike.io/post/3matwg6w3ic2s

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                                • trebach@functional.cafeT trebach@functional.cafe

                                  @jackemled @sundogplanets Maybe send this: https://www.scs.stanford.edu/~dm/home/papers/remove.pdf

                                  This was sent to a journal that is all too happy to print whatever provided you're willing to pay hundreds of dollars for it and they were sick of getting emails from the journal so they sent this

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                                  #84

                                  @trebach @jackemled @sundogplanets This was an absolute classic.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!

                                    qccechris@mastodon.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #85

                                    @sundogplanets A bunch of cods swallow.
                                    Sources are probably hallucinated. Nothing there seems legit.
                                    Report it as a scam! I would.

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                                    • qccechris@mastodon.socialQ qccechris@mastodon.social

                                      @sundogplanets A bunch of cods swallow.
                                      Sources are probably hallucinated. Nothing there seems legit.
                                      Report it as a scam! I would.

                                      qccechris@mastodon.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #86

                                      @sundogplanets The other point would be, using legit scientific sources rather than some random pos, AI-slop site.

                                      Too many things to consider this to be a legit response.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!

                                        canadianglen@thecanadian.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #87

                                        @sundogplanets my belief is that the true purpose of A I is to take all known emperical facts and create infinite misinformation referencing soon-to-be-unavailable actual works.

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                                        • rednikki@toot.bostonR rednikki@toot.boston

                                          @sundogplanets AI is terrible for citations. Citations are a huge part of my job (I edit at a journal). All of us journal people are trying to send up the alarm about how much AI screws up citations, and no one is listening. If you ask AI to format your citations it will mess up all your DOIs and make things that look right but are not at all.

                                          JAMA has written a thing on this, which is polite and journal-speak for "oh god, oh god, do not let AI touch your citations": https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2852772

                                          wcbdata@vis.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #88

                                          @rednikki @sundogplanets And a spokesperson for one of the hospital systems in Mass today said that ChatGPT is perfectly fine for summarizing your medical records for the clinical team because "it gives citations and links for everything it says."

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