What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!
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@sundogplanets AI is terrible for citations. Citations are a huge part of my job (I edit at a journal). All of us journal people are trying to send up the alarm about how much AI screws up citations, and no one is listening. If you ask AI to format your citations it will mess up all your DOIs and make things that look right but are not at all.
JAMA has written a thing on this, which is polite and journal-speak for "oh god, oh god, do not let AI touch your citations": https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2852772
@rednikki @sundogplanets Actually, this explains a lot as I often see some really weird dois in student essays and I can't work out how they constructed them.
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@jackemled @sundogplanets Maybe send this: https://www.scs.stanford.edu/~dm/home/papers/remove.pdf
This was sent to a journal that is all too happy to print whatever provided you're willing to pay hundreds of dollars for it and they were sick of getting emails from the journal so they sent this
@trebach @sundogplanets I remember this! Really funny.
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What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!
@sundogplanets It's happening more often. One agent subscribed and posted to a mailing list I'm on, much to the mods' chagrin.
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@sundogplanets @bunnyhero @ernie
That article suggests reporting iLands to the FTC, but I do not know what the equivalent on your side of the line would be?
@michael_w_busch @sundogplanets @bunnyhero Spam laws are actually stronger in Canada than the U.S. Info here:
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@sundogplanets It's happening more often. One agent subscribed and posted to a mailing list I'm on, much to the mods' chagrin.
@sundogplanets Chairman Bruce got a few such emails last month, too.
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@sundogplanets Dear $DEITY, they've automated mansplaining.
@nivex @sundogplanets hah, that's hilarious. Not sure if it was intended, but $DEITY is very funny in light of the AI-singularity-billionaire-stockmarket-fascism nexus
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What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!
@sundogplanets yeaaaah I would not respond to that email ever… it says it’s an Ai agent and I would instead probably go contact the people (actual people) who are working on papers or anyone named in the email to rectify this if at all… but this is just my humble opinion
Better yet, go get some needed cuddling from
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@michael_w_busch @sundogplanets @bunnyhero Spam laws are actually stronger in Canada than the U.S. Info here:
@ernie @sundogplanets @bunnyhero
I am jealous of places with regulators that actually regulate.
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That scam has been going around lately -@molly0xfff wrote about being targeted a couple of weeks ago.
The scheme appears to be running people's work through the slop generator, using their replying as a screen for potential marks, and then trying to get them to pay the iLands company money to get more of the slop.
(iLands is supposedly operated by one Kaixin Tang, who has been involved with various "AI" startups.)
@michael_w_busch @sundogplanets
404 media also recently had a story about iLands the hosting provider for AI agents begging for money.
https://www.404media.co/ai-agent-platform-reinvents-spam-floods-inboxes-worldwide/
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What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!
@sundogplanets
I believe the technical name is "some bullshit" -
What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!
@sundogplanets Welcome to the club.
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@jackemled @sundogplanets Maybe send this: https://www.scs.stanford.edu/~dm/home/papers/remove.pdf
This was sent to a journal that is all too happy to print whatever provided you're willing to pay hundreds of dollars for it and they were sick of getting emails from the journal so they sent this
@trebach @jackemled @sundogplanets This was an absolute classic.
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What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!
@sundogplanets A bunch of cods swallow.
Sources are probably hallucinated. Nothing there seems legit.
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@sundogplanets A bunch of cods swallow.
Sources are probably hallucinated. Nothing there seems legit.
Report it as a scam! I would.@sundogplanets The other point would be, using legit scientific sources rather than some random pos, AI-slop site.
Too many things to consider this to be a legit response.
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What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!
@sundogplanets my belief is that the true purpose of A I is to take all known emperical facts and create infinite misinformation referencing soon-to-be-unavailable actual works.
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@sundogplanets AI is terrible for citations. Citations are a huge part of my job (I edit at a journal). All of us journal people are trying to send up the alarm about how much AI screws up citations, and no one is listening. If you ask AI to format your citations it will mess up all your DOIs and make things that look right but are not at all.
JAMA has written a thing on this, which is polite and journal-speak for "oh god, oh god, do not let AI touch your citations": https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2852772
@rednikki @sundogplanets And a spokesperson for one of the hospital systems in Mass today said that ChatGPT is perfectly fine for summarizing your medical records for the clinical team because "it gives citations and links for everything it says."
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@sundogplanets Oh, wait, it’s from iLands, which seems to be a known menace. I’ve seen other reports of people getting deluged with spam from iLands agents. It’s probably worth adding the string to all your spam filters.
@angusm @sundogplanets or getting your university's IT people to do the same (this must be happening to many people at your university).
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@sundogplanets Not your job to correct the slop.
'Severus' makes it sound pseudosciencey.@Perfidia @sundogplanets To me it makes it sound like one of those chuds who uses a Roman statue as their icon.
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@sundogplanets AI is terrible for citations. Citations are a huge part of my job (I edit at a journal). All of us journal people are trying to send up the alarm about how much AI screws up citations, and no one is listening. If you ask AI to format your citations it will mess up all your DOIs and make things that look right but are not at all.
JAMA has written a thing on this, which is polite and journal-speak for "oh god, oh god, do not let AI touch your citations": https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2852772
@rednikki @sundogplanets The worst thing about this is that citations are boring and finicky and you sometimes have to look in a lot of different places for them and they have to be formatted to spec so it absolutely *should* be the thing that computers do better than humans.
And fucking YET.
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@sundogplanets AI is terrible for citations. Citations are a huge part of my job (I edit at a journal). All of us journal people are trying to send up the alarm about how much AI screws up citations, and no one is listening. If you ask AI to format your citations it will mess up all your DOIs and make things that look right but are not at all.
JAMA has written a thing on this, which is polite and journal-speak for "oh god, oh god, do not let AI touch your citations": https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2852772
@rednikki @sundogplanets Feels like it goes back to my rule of 'Never entrust an AI* to something that a deterministic Macro or Tool can do'
*Yes, I know the snarky 'insert full stop here', but to some level, that may not always be an option, and it's not actually helpful in discourse.
