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  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

    the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

    europlus@social.europlus.zoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #44

    @neurovagrant @petrillic *LLMorale

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    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

      the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

      europlus@social.europlus.zoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #45

      @neurovagrant @petrillic forgot to say “pretty please with sugar on top don’t delete my files.”

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      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

        the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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        #46

        @neurovagrant FailHorn.ogg

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        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

          the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

          tallship@fedia.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #47

          @neurovagrant I think it was rm -rf /bin/laden and he was just confused.

          I dunno what's wrong with these people nowadays.... Maybe if we give them USB sticks with
          Bastille ISO images ready to install and deploy on their machines.

          Even the documentation for these agents recommends you not use your daily drivers, or at least sandbox it in a chroot'ed jail, or if not that then at least limit it to it's own little directory tree as a sandbox in your file system, or.....

          Ah, what the heck just install and let it go do what it does - what could go wrong? In a marketplace where no one seems to feel the need the proper training or orientation..... You get what we had last week in one of those underwater caves.....

          Wait? Uh, Oh!

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          • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

            the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

            almonds@mastodon.mit.eduA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #48

            @neurovagrant I feel like the sole purpose in an AI bro's life is to humor me with this exact joke

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            • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

              the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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              #49

              @neurovagrant if you gave #AI the ability to rm -rf your system that's a fucking skills issue.

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              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                #50

                @neurovagrant

                Script kiddies. They're all just script kiddies. Especially the ones who ought to know better.

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                • joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ joshg@mathstodon.xyz

                  @neurovagrant "Claude decided" you mean the random plausible-word-sequence generator generated a sequence that you stupidly gave permission to delete all ur files, hope that helps have a nice day

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                  #51

                  @joshg @neurovagrant In the case of AI agent, it might be a good idea to treat it like a separate person with its own identity, accounts and permissions.
                  Always relevant: https://furry.engineer/@aronowski/116486886171382391

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                  • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                    @neurovagrant In 2005, we had a rookie security consultant doing a penetration test for our client. To demonstrate that the client's app was vulnerable to SQL injection, he ran drop table users; via injection.

                    Twenty years of progress means we can make the rookie mistakes faster and with fewer employees.

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                    #52

                    @paco @neurovagrant wouldn't that be a criminal offense at that point as well

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                    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                      the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                      #53

                      @neurovagrant Morality. I think in this case the right word to use is morality.

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                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                        the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                        #54

                        @neurovagrant It's beautiful.

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                        • paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #55

                          @astraleureka At approximately the same time (same year, probably) we had a WAF vendor some in and give a presentation on their product. We had demo access to a live version of it. We were playing with the console of the WAF itself, not some app behind the WAF.

                          While the vendor is speaking my colleague starts testing stuff on the product console and within a couple minutes he’s pretty sure it’s vulnerable to SQL injection. He tries the classic “or 1=1” and he gets a well-formatted security error. Huh. It detected that and stopped it. He tried “or 2=2”. Bingo. It WAS vulnerable, but they were detecting and matching on the value “or 1=1” as some kind of literal. 🤦🏻

                          I dont mean to derail the thread about careless people losing data to the automated , climate-destroying intern. It just triggers memories of hand made, non-automated failures in the past.

                          @jztusk @neurovagrant

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                          • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                            the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                            #56

                            @neurovagrant

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                            • somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social

                              @jrdepriest @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant no, drop tables *also* let's you demonstrate the presence or absence of effective backups. It's a two for one test!

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                              #57

                              @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk @jrdepriest @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant And also the non-isolation of permissions (the SQL user the application connects with should not be able to perform DDL queries, only DQL and DML).

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                              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                                #58

                                @neurovagrant good

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                                • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                  the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

                                  taschenorakel@mastodon.greenT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #59

                                  @neurovagrant Just waiting for the day, when Claude deletes my employer's company wide network shares.

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                                  • kirakira@furry.engineerK kirakira@furry.engineer

                                    @neurovagrant apes gone

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                                    #60

                                    @kirakira @neurovagrant all of em

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                                    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                      the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

                                      derherrfreitag@bonn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #61

                                      @neurovagrant Part of the AI folkore, as long as your company is not big enough for "my agent/model is commiting crimes now".

                                      Both still leave me puzzled, because in a professional context, this is a clear sign not to trust those people or even do business with them. But I might not be a professional... ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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                                      • aronowski@furry.engineerA aronowski@furry.engineer

                                        @joshg @neurovagrant In the case of AI agent, it might be a good idea to treat it like a separate person with its own identity, accounts and permissions.
                                        Always relevant: https://furry.engineer/@aronowski/116486886171382391

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                                        #62

                                        @aronowski
                                        I vastly prefer the "don't use the stupid wasteful unethical thing" option, myself.
                                        @neurovagrant

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                                        • derherrfreitag@bonn.socialD derherrfreitag@bonn.social

                                          @neurovagrant Part of the AI folkore, as long as your company is not big enough for "my agent/model is commiting crimes now".

                                          Both still leave me puzzled, because in a professional context, this is a clear sign not to trust those people or even do business with them. But I might not be a professional... ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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                                          #63

                                          @neurovagrant Oh, CTO midnight foundation... "dedicated to growing the Midnight network — a fourth-generation blockchain built for secure, compliant, and private decentralised applications". 🙄

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