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  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

    the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

    meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #49

    @neurovagrant if you gave #AI the ability to rm -rf your system that's a fucking skills issue.

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    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

      the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

      skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #50

      @neurovagrant

      Script kiddies. They're all just script kiddies. Especially the ones who ought to know better.

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      • joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ joshg@mathstodon.xyz

        @neurovagrant "Claude decided" you mean the random plausible-word-sequence generator generated a sequence that you stupidly gave permission to delete all ur files, hope that helps have a nice day

        aronowski@furry.engineerA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #51

        @joshg @neurovagrant In the case of AI agent, it might be a good idea to treat it like a separate person with its own identity, accounts and permissions.
        Always relevant: https://furry.engineer/@aronowski/116486886171382391

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        • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

          @neurovagrant In 2005, we had a rookie security consultant doing a penetration test for our client. To demonstrate that the client's app was vulnerable to SQL injection, he ran drop table users; via injection.

          Twenty years of progress means we can make the rookie mistakes faster and with fewer employees.

          rail@social.flufftech.netR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #52

          @paco @neurovagrant wouldn't that be a criminal offense at that point as well

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          • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

            the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

            scy@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #53

            @neurovagrant Morality. I think in this case the right word to use is morality.

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            • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

              the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

              rubinjoni@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #54

              @neurovagrant It's beautiful.

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              • paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #55

                @astraleureka At approximately the same time (same year, probably) we had a WAF vendor some in and give a presentation on their product. We had demo access to a live version of it. We were playing with the console of the WAF itself, not some app behind the WAF.

                While the vendor is speaking my colleague starts testing stuff on the product console and within a couple minutes he’s pretty sure it’s vulnerable to SQL injection. He tries the classic “or 1=1” and he gets a well-formatted security error. Huh. It detected that and stopped it. He tried “or 2=2”. Bingo. It WAS vulnerable, but they were detecting and matching on the value “or 1=1” as some kind of literal. 🤦🏻

                I dont mean to derail the thread about careless people losing data to the automated , climate-destroying intern. It just triggers memories of hand made, non-automated failures in the past.

                @jztusk @neurovagrant

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                • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                  the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

                  mmu_man@m.g3l.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #56

                  @neurovagrant

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                  • somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social

                    @jrdepriest @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant no, drop tables *also* let's you demonstrate the presence or absence of effective backups. It's a two for one test!

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                    #57

                    @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk @jrdepriest @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant And also the non-isolation of permissions (the SQL user the application connects with should not be able to perform DDL queries, only DQL and DML).

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                    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                      the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

                      luap42@chaos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #58

                      @neurovagrant good

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                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                        the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

                        taschenorakel@mastodon.greenT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #59

                        @neurovagrant Just waiting for the day, when Claude deletes my employer's company wide network shares.

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                        • kirakira@furry.engineerK kirakira@furry.engineer

                          @neurovagrant apes gone

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                          #60

                          @kirakira @neurovagrant all of em

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                          • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                            the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

                            derherrfreitag@bonn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #61

                            @neurovagrant Part of the AI folkore, as long as your company is not big enough for "my agent/model is commiting crimes now".

                            Both still leave me puzzled, because in a professional context, this is a clear sign not to trust those people or even do business with them. But I might not be a professional... ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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                            • aronowski@furry.engineerA aronowski@furry.engineer

                              @joshg @neurovagrant In the case of AI agent, it might be a good idea to treat it like a separate person with its own identity, accounts and permissions.
                              Always relevant: https://furry.engineer/@aronowski/116486886171382391

                              joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #62

                              @aronowski
                              I vastly prefer the "don't use the stupid wasteful unethical thing" option, myself.
                              @neurovagrant

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                              • derherrfreitag@bonn.socialD derherrfreitag@bonn.social

                                @neurovagrant Part of the AI folkore, as long as your company is not big enough for "my agent/model is commiting crimes now".

                                Both still leave me puzzled, because in a professional context, this is a clear sign not to trust those people or even do business with them. But I might not be a professional... ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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                                #63

                                @neurovagrant Oh, CTO midnight foundation... "dedicated to growing the Midnight network — a fourth-generation blockchain built for secure, compliant, and private decentralised applications". 🙄

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                                • patricksh@mas.toP patricksh@mas.to

                                  @neurovagrant been thinking about aliasing rm -rf as “finish-him”

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                                  #64

                                  @patricksh @neurovagrant 100% YES

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                                  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                    the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                                    #65

                                    @neurovagrant Did he not know that rm -rf was? I honestly don't know what was supposed to do. And, if he closes most sandboxes, they tend to delete because they are temporary. I don't get it.

                                    I don't get what this guy was trying to do and I don't think I will understand. I feel silly.

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                                    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                      the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

                                      dch@bsd.networkD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #66

                                      @neurovagrant also, people still not doing backups/restore testing, no zfs, no jails / containers / other restrictions. Kids these days.

                                      neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN drwho@masto.hackers.townD 2 Replies Last reply
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                                      • dch@bsd.networkD dch@bsd.network

                                        @neurovagrant also, people still not doing backups/restore testing, no zfs, no jails / containers / other restrictions. Kids these days.

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                                        #67

                                        @dch right?

                                        the fundamentals do not disappear regardless of the presence of spicy autocorrect

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                                        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                          the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

                                          aakl@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #68

                                          @neurovagrant 😅 .

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