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  3. #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

#Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

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  • tk@social.apreslanu.itT tk@social.apreslanu.it

    @nartagnan l'uncanny valley dans 10 000 ans, si on est encore dans les parages : pourquoi la reconnaissance instinctive des lignes de fuite est devenue un enjeu de sélection naturelle ?

    @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu

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    #16

    @nartagnan en fait, je vois même pas comment intégrer ça au process d'entrainement, sans que cela devienne une machine à gaz, ce qui est déjà le cas however, genre encoder un raytracer

    @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu

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    • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

      #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

      🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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      #17

      @FabMusacchio it is really telling that one of the most powerful tools to detect fake images is an artistic tool that any first year art school student knows about

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      • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

        #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

        🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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        #18

        @FabMusacchio Hello! Can I ask where the url shortener sends?

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        • mourioche@mastodon.socialM mourioche@mastodon.social

          @mathieu_ @AudeCaussarieu
          Ça, ça marchera jusqu'à ce que les IA génératives d'images se mettent à placer les éléments d'une image dans un espace en 3D.

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          #19

          @Mourioche
          Évidemment, ça me semble temporaire comme erreur.
          @AudeCaussarieu

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          • ilusenn@corneill.esI ilusenn@corneill.es

            @FabMusacchio Hello! Can I ask where the url shortener sends?

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            #20

            @ilusenn @FabMusacchio It's legit - the website of the scientific journal, Science (they picked scim.ag because it is short for Science magazine).

            Here's the full URL: https://www.science.org/content/article/deepfakes-are-everywhere-godfather-digital-forensics-fighting-back

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            • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

              #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

              🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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              #21

              @FabMusacchio

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              • jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ jonnyt@mastodon.me.uk

                @ilusenn @FabMusacchio It's legit - the website of the scientific journal, Science (they picked scim.ag because it is short for Science magazine).

                Here's the full URL: https://www.science.org/content/article/deepfakes-are-everywhere-godfather-digital-forensics-fighting-back

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                #22

                @JonnyT @FabMusacchio Thank you!
                I try to keep the habit to ask everytime

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                • jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ jonnyt@mastodon.me.uk

                  @ilusenn @FabMusacchio It's legit - the website of the scientific journal, Science (they picked scim.ag because it is short for Science magazine).

                  Here's the full URL: https://www.science.org/content/article/deepfakes-are-everywhere-godfather-digital-forensics-fighting-back

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                  #23

                  @JonnyT Thanks! For I never click on URL shorteners ... like many people here. @ilusenn @FabMusacchio

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                  • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

                    #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

                    🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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                    #24

                    @FabMusacchio @spellingmistakescostlives

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                    • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

                      #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

                      🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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                      #25

                      @FabMusacchio good post 👍

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                      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                        @JonnyT Thanks! For I never click on URL shorteners ... like many people here. @ilusenn @FabMusacchio

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                        #26

                        @NatureMC @ilusenn @FabMusacchio Definitely not a fan either but I am aware of where this one leads (or, at least, should).

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                        • mathieu_@eldritch.cafeM mathieu_@eldritch.cafe

                          @Mourioche
                          Évidemment, ça me semble temporaire comme erreur.
                          @AudeCaussarieu

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                          #27

                          @mathieu_ @AudeCaussarieu Je mets ma main au feu que les IA génératives savent déjà le faire, si on leur demande dans le prompt 🙄

                          On va surement en arriver au même résultat que pour la presse ou la télévision : La confiance dans le média sera lié à la réputation du média et à rien d'autre...

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                          • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

                            @FabMusacchio beautiful analysis even though I'm still suspicious of lens distortions.

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                            #28

                            @f4grx @FabMusacchio sun rays are parallel, yet they meet at a point...?

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                            • deixis9@beige.partyD deixis9@beige.party

                              @FabMusacchio @spellingmistakescostlives

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                              #29

                              @Deixis9 what's the origin of the image?

                              Thanks

                              I see that it's commercialised e.g. <https://lovingsquad.com/product/ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-shirt/>, <https://pagtee.com/product/t-shirt/1926944-ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-cyborg-painting-flames>, <https://zerevia.com/product/t-shirt/1926944-ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-cyborg-painting-flames>, <https://www.spellingmistakescostlives.com/product-page/copy-of-ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-sticker>, however there's no real acknowledgement of an original artist; no credit, as far as I can tell.

                              @FabMusacchio @spellingmistakescostlives

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                              • leah@blahaj.socialL leah@blahaj.social

                                @f4grx @FabMusacchio sun rays are parallel, yet they meet at a point...?

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                                #30

                                @leah @f4grx @FabMusacchio they meet at such a far away point that they appear to be parallel

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                                • microblogc@neopaquita.esM microblogc@neopaquita.es

                                  @FabMusacchio So if I want to commit a murder, I have years to prepare it and I know the place will be surveilled with cameras, I should pave it with slightly non-parallell tiles, to get a plausible deniability.

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                                  #31

                                  @microblogc @FabMusacchio Forced perspective is your friend: "The Potemkin Stairs in Odesa extend for 142 metres, but give the illusion of greater depth since the stairs are wider at the bottom than at the top."

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                                  • ncrazed@fd00.spaceN ncrazed@fd00.space

                                    @leah @f4grx @FabMusacchio they meet at such a far away point that they appear to be parallel

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                                    #32

                                    @nCrazed @f4grx @FabMusacchio But this is irrelevant for the technique described? It would work with a non-parallel spot lamp just as well?

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                                    • leah@blahaj.socialL leah@blahaj.social

                                      @nCrazed @f4grx @FabMusacchio But this is irrelevant for the technique described? It would work with a non-parallel spot lamp just as well?

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                                      #33

                                      @leah @f4grx @FabMusacchio yeah, I think that's a fair criticism 🤔

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                                      • ncrazed@fd00.spaceN ncrazed@fd00.space

                                        @leah @f4grx @FabMusacchio yeah, I think that's a fair criticism 🤔

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                                        #34

                                        @nCrazed @leah @f4grx @FabMusacchio Lines from a shadow through the object casting it meet at the light source. Sunlight being virtually parallel is irrelevant. If the light source isn't point-like, you get blurry shadows.

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                                        • fuzzy@beige.partyF fuzzy@beige.party

                                          @Deixis9 what's the origin of the image?

                                          Thanks

                                          I see that it's commercialised e.g. <https://lovingsquad.com/product/ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-shirt/>, <https://pagtee.com/product/t-shirt/1926944-ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-cyborg-painting-flames>, <https://zerevia.com/product/t-shirt/1926944-ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-cyborg-painting-flames>, <https://www.spellingmistakescostlives.com/product-page/copy-of-ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-sticker>, however there's no real acknowledgement of an original artist; no credit, as far as I can tell.

                                          @FabMusacchio @spellingmistakescostlives

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                                          #35

                                          @fuzzy @FabMusacchio @spellingmistakescostlives

                                          https://www.spellingmistakescostlives.com/drawings

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