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  3. “Soon it will be virtually impossible to be online in the UK without handing over identity documents or biometric data to unregulated companies.”

“Soon it will be virtually impossible to be online in the UK without handing over identity documents or biometric data to unregulated companies.”

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  • jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.org

    @philipdalston @openrightsgroup It’s not just social media but gaming platforms too. So if you enjoy playing games you are stuck.

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    #16

    @philipdalston @openrightsgroup And also on device scanning so if you want a phone that it’s capable of recording your own body or seeing a biological image of our species you are also forced into the ID funnel

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    • F fenex33@mastodon.social

      @openrightsgroup And if it means I won't be online? Then I won't be online. It's worth it if it means I don't have to give my identity to some shady third party company, that doesn't know how to take care of that data

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      #17

      @fenex33 @openrightsgroup In theory at least until certain things demand being online like important government things which means having to submit your data. They'll find a way to snag it unless you want to become a non-person which isn't so bad as long as you don't mind the drifter life.

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      • musevg@23.socialM musevg@23.social

        @openrightsgroup
        @JamesBaker
        Considering this abomination is done by INGSOC *cough* Labour, I'm wondering: Who to vote at the next election to get rid of this shit?

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        #18

        @musevg @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker At least in England the Greens are your only option, there are other options in the other nations thankfully.

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        • jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.org

          @philipdalston @openrightsgroup And also on device scanning so if you want a phone that it’s capable of recording your own body or seeing a biological image of our species you are also forced into the ID funnel

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          #19

          @JamesBaker @openrightsgroup Online gaming is social media also when you think about it. And jailbreaking will always be a thing. Small prices to pay to get the trillionaires out of my face.

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          • philipdalston@toot.communityP philipdalston@toot.community

            @JamesBaker @openrightsgroup Online gaming is social media also when you think about it. And jailbreaking will always be a thing. Small prices to pay to get the trillionaires out of my face.

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            #20

            @philipdalston @openrightsgroup The billionaires will get your face. Peter Thiel is a major investor in Persona doing the facial biometric scanning.

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            • jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.org

              @philipdalston @openrightsgroup The billionaires will get your face. Peter Thiel is a major investor in Persona doing the facial biometric scanning.

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              #21

              @JamesBaker @openrightsgroup Not if I abstain. Don't get me wrong, perhaps we have similar aims, I just think that right now putting the brakes on social media is task #1. With or without official ID the trillionaires already know exactly who their users are.

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              • jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.org

                @adrianmorales @openrightsgroup It applies to gaming platforms as well. So for literally millions of people an entire past-time comes under it, even if you avoided social media

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                #22

                @JamesBaker And if the gaming industry would make some lobbyism aka do something for protesters? (Just a smol crazy idea).

                @adrianmorales @openrightsgroup

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                • philipdalston@toot.communityP philipdalston@toot.community

                  @JamesBaker @openrightsgroup Not if I abstain. Don't get me wrong, perhaps we have similar aims, I just think that right now putting the brakes on social media is task #1. With or without official ID the trillionaires already know exactly who their users are.

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                  #23

                  I worry it will entrench their power and obscure meaningful policies that would tackle the root causes. For example how going through Reddit ID process meant Reddit then got you year of birth data to better target people with adds. Millions of people’s personal ID data will go into these systems and much will end up being used by ad tech and reinforce power structures

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                  • jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.org

                    I worry it will entrench their power and obscure meaningful policies that would tackle the root causes. For example how going through Reddit ID process meant Reddit then got you year of birth data to better target people with adds. Millions of people’s personal ID data will go into these systems and much will end up being used by ad tech and reinforce power structures

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                    #24

                    But it seems we are both worried about the power of those platforms

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                    • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

                      “Soon it will be virtually impossible to be online in the UK without handing over identity documents or biometric data to unregulated companies.”

                      The social media ban means EVERY user has to prove they're over 16. This puts millions at risk of their personal data being hacked.

                      🗣️ ORG's @JamesBaker.

                      https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366644294/Big-tech-must-introduce-age-checks-to-support-UKs-under-16s-social-media-ban

                      #stopKillingInternet #StopKillingTheInternet #socialmediaban #socialmedia #ageverification #onlinesafety #privacy #censorship #ukpolitics #ukpol

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                      #25

                      @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker are they going to erect barriers to websites hosted outside the UK?

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                      • nini@oldbytes.spaceN nini@oldbytes.space

                        @musevg @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker At least in England the Greens are your only option, there are other options in the other nations thankfully.

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                        @nini
                        That's a bet on a very unknown, isn't it?
                        How many seats in the HoC are currently green?
                        Also the next government(s) may need to form a coalition because one-party majorities may become rare?

                        (Btw: German Greens turned out to be much less green than expected once they reached the government, so… maybe… curb your expectations)
                        @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker

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                        • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

                          “Soon it will be virtually impossible to be online in the UK without handing over identity documents or biometric data to unregulated companies.”

                          The social media ban means EVERY user has to prove they're over 16. This puts millions at risk of their personal data being hacked.

                          🗣️ ORG's @JamesBaker.

                          https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366644294/Big-tech-must-introduce-age-checks-to-support-UKs-under-16s-social-media-ban

                          #stopKillingInternet #StopKillingTheInternet #socialmediaban #socialmedia #ageverification #onlinesafety #privacy #censorship #ukpolitics #ukpol

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                          @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker Again, a loss of freedom.

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                          • jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.org

                            @TuutW @openrightsgroup When it applies to gaming platforms it’s not as simple for many people as just ditching X for Mastodon. Although the later would be a silver lining

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                            #28

                            @JamesBaker @openrightsgroup Gaming or gambling? Gambling is malicious, addictive a d leads to suicides and high debts. Gaming can be harmless as long players are not tempted with paid extensions.

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                            • tuutw@mastodon.nlT tuutw@mastodon.nl

                              @JamesBaker @openrightsgroup Gaming or gambling? Gambling is malicious, addictive a d leads to suicides and high debts. Gaming can be harmless as long players are not tempted with paid extensions.

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                              #29

                              @TuutW @openrightsgroup Video gaming. Yes every human activity can be harmless or harmful depending how you do it.

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                              • jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.org

                                @TuutW @openrightsgroup Video gaming. Yes every human activity can be harmless or harmful depending how you do it.

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                                #30

                                @JamesBaker @openrightsgroup No, not on how you do it. It is on how you are manipulated by these plaforms. These type of platforms should banned. Don't you have children and young adults heavily addicted and in deep trouble due to extortions by gaming platforms?

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                                • tuutw@mastodon.nlT tuutw@mastodon.nl

                                  @JamesBaker @openrightsgroup No, not on how you do it. It is on how you are manipulated by these plaforms. These type of platforms should banned. Don't you have children and young adults heavily addicted and in deep trouble due to extortions by gaming platforms?

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                                  #31

                                  @TuutW @openrightsgroup I play games with my son and enjoy it as an activity. I don’t think we should be overpathologizing everyday life by calling all sorts of behaviors ‘addictions’. I don’t support prohibition as a means to change platforms either. I support user tools, empowerment and education.

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