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  • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

    Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

    They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

    I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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    #8

    @datarama LOLLLLL

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    • rugk@chaos.socialR rugk@chaos.social

      @datarama
      When I read "AI company executives" I thought "executives" refers to CEOs😅😅.

      Makes that a lot funnier 😅

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      #9

      @rugk that is what it refers to

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      • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

        Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

        They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

        I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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        #10

        @datarama

        <chef's kiss>

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        • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

          Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

          They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

          I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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          #11

          @datarama

          LOL

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          • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

            Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

            They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

            I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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            #12

            @datarama no lies detected

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            • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

              Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

              They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

              I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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              #13

              @datarama

              #chatCEO

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              • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

                They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

                I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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                #14

                @datarama

                I assume you're familiar with the "Larry Ellison / lawnmower" idea?

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                • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                  @datarama

                  I assume you're familiar with the "Larry Ellison / lawnmower" idea?

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                  #15

                  @datarama

                  If not, it starts:
                  > Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison. You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. ...

                  Full text here:
                  https://simonwillison.net/2024/Sep/17/bryan-cantrill/

                  There's a full conference talk on it, but I can't find it now.

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                    #16

                    @Taco_lad @datarama

                    D'oh! Thanks

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                    • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                      Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

                      They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

                      I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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                      #17

                      @datarama

                      That might have been true six months ago or even three months ago, but you're just showing that you're not truly interacting with AI CEOs *today* with an open mind.

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                      • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                        Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

                        They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

                        I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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                        #18

                        @datarama And now I’m hearing @bcantrill reminding us not to anthropomorphize Larry Ellison back in 2010. A true visionary….

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                        • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                          Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

                          They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

                          I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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                          #19

                          @datarama So true

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                          • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                            @mjdxp ...but even they wouldn't go home and talk to an AI company executive.

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                            #20

                            @datarama @mjdxp The chatbots?

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                            • valpackett@social.treehouse.systemsV valpackett@social.treehouse.systems

                              @rugk that is what it refers to

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                              @valpackett @rugk Yep!

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                              • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                                Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

                                They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

                                I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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                                #22

                                @datarama I tend to call them random string generators and I avoid to call them anything else than what they are, #LLM

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                                • aho@mastodon.socialA aho@mastodon.social

                                  @datarama I tend to call them random string generators and I avoid to call them anything else than what they are, #LLM

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                                  @aho Liability Laundering Marketers?

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                                  • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                                    Please stop anthropomorphizing AI company executives.

                                    They're not sentient and they can't actually think. They just predict token sequences using statistical patterns scraped from LinkedIn, X and the Financial Times. The apparent "understanding" is simply a parlor trick: They produce text strings that *sound* plausible, but they don't actually have any understanding of the world.

                                    I'll grant that they became a lot more technically impressive when Reinforcement Learning from Investor Sentiment pipelines were introduced, but fundamentally they're still just stochastic bullshit generators. Giving them access to the internet will end up being the most expensive mistake in the history of technology.

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                                    #24

                                    I swear, I'll scream next time some headline mentions what Sam Altman "thinks" or what Dario Amodei "believes".

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                                    • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                                      I swear, I'll scream next time some headline mentions what Sam Altman "thinks" or what Dario Amodei "believes".

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                                      @datarama I hope you're ready to scream

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                                      • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                                        I swear, I'll scream next time some headline mentions what Sam Altman "thinks" or what Dario Amodei "believes".

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                                        @datarama

                                        I would much rather scream for ice scream!

                                        #NeverSlop

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                                        • rune@social.sound-city.dkR rune@social.sound-city.dk

                                          @datarama I hope you're ready to scream

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                                          @rune I've been fighting to hold in the screams for the last 4 years at this point

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