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  • nogodsnomasters@kolektiva.socialN nogodsnomasters@kolektiva.social
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    #23

    @nogodsnomasters

    Disproportionate criminal sentencing is a hallmark of plutocracy & oligarchy.
    https://horsepowermuseum.co.uk/duel-on-the-wimbledon-common/

    After the Enclosure Acts, starving farm villagers were hung or transported for poaching rabbits or deer
    https://www.hope.ac.uk/news/allnews/new-research-into-victorian-capital-punishment-revealed.html

    https://museumcrush.org/the-dark-history-of-poaching-in-suffolk/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convicts_in_Australia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure

    The rich are very keen on famines that preserve their ill-gotten wealth too.
    https://www.ighm.org/learn.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/29/winston-churchill-policies-contributed-to-1943-bengal-famine-study

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943

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    • madness832@mstdn.partyM madness832@mstdn.party

      @nogodsnomasters But now the homeless man has a place to sleep, wash up, has clean clothes and three squares a day.

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      #24

      @madness832 @nogodsnomasters In a country that allows forced labour for prisoners, and for profit prisons. I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, or if this is going to turn into "but the slaves were well cared for!"

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        #25

        @nogodsnomasters the former is too much leniency.

        The latter one is cruel and unusual punishment.

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        • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

          @stuartb @SeanPLynch @nogodsnomasters

          I smell something else in that second newsicle. A judge that housed a man for 15 years in an extremely expensive state run housing program. 😉

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          #26

          @doctormo @stuartb @SeanPLynch @nogodsnomasters Did you know that the USA allows forced, unpaid labour for prisoners, and that for profit prisons make money selling prison labour like to-order slavery? I didn't know for a long time.

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          • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

            @stuartb @SeanPLynch @nogodsnomasters

            there may be some facts here that cause you to think a very little bit differently

            https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/homeless-man-vs-corporate-thief/

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            #27

            @failedLyndonLaRouchite @stuartb @SeanPLynch @nogodsnomasters I can't read the snopes article, because snopes doesn't know the difference between a tracking blocker and an ad blocker.

            I can read this article from Cornell though, and it does more to verify than invalidate this story.

            https://publications.lawschool.cornell.edu/jlpp/2011/11/17/a-tale-of-two-criminals/

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              #28

              @nogodsnomasters

              In the Tales From the Crypt version of this, the homeless guy cuts the other guy's face off and gets early release.

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                #29

                @nogodsnomasters @trendytoots
                "Steal a little and they throw you in jail; steal a lot and they make you king..." 🎵

                Bob Dylan, 1983

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                  #30

                  @nogodsnomasters

                  This is what capitalism will always do, and why we must remove the capitalists from power and never allow them power again.

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                    @nogodsnomasters I have heard stories of elderly people in the US robbing banks for small sums just to go to prison for the provided healthcare, though that says more about the healthcare system.

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                    • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

                      @stuartb @nogodsnomasters

                      Alternatively, if we took a 15 year's sentence to be the standard for stealing $100, then the executive who stole $3B should get a 30,000,000 year sentence.

                      Yeah, a 30 million year sentence would be the executive being treated the same as the homeless man.

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                      #32

                      @SeanPLynch @stuartb @nogodsnomasters I'd prefer that the other guy gets his 3.5 seconds sentence.

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                      • toriver@mas.toT toriver@mas.to

                        @nogodsnomasters I have heard stories of elderly people in the US robbing banks for small sums just to go to prison for the provided healthcare, though that says more about the healthcare system.

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                        #33

                        @toriver @nogodsnomasters hi

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                          #34

                          @nogodsnomasters white collar vs violent crime. He robbed a bank at, what seemed to the teller as, gunpoint. That he only took $100 is inconsequential.

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                          • grayladywriter@mindly.socialG grayladywriter@mindly.social

                            @nogodsnomasters

                            Let me guess-one of them has white skin and the other one doesn’t.

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                            #35

                            @grayladywriter one of them robbed a bank at "gunpoint" (he mimicked having a weapon)

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                            • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                              @stuartb @SeanPLynch @nogodsnomasters

                              there may be some facts here that cause you to think a very little bit differently

                              https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/homeless-man-vs-corporate-thief/

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                              @failedLyndonLaRouchite @stuartb @SeanPLynch @nogodsnomasters Yes, the homeless guy robbed a bank which probably caused trauma and emotional stress for the people involved. Was it more than $3 billion worth of stress? If not then it should have been less than the white collar criminal's sentence. Or the white collar criminal's sentence should have been increased to 15 years.

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                              • toriver@mas.toT toriver@mas.to

                                @nogodsnomasters I have heard stories of elderly people in the US robbing banks for small sums just to go to prison for the provided healthcare, though that says more about the healthcare system.

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                                #37

                                @toriver @nogodsnomasters I'm honestly surprised that they don't charge for prison so that you end up indebted after you get out. Seems like a natural progression for capitalism.

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                                  #38

                                  @nogodsnomasters
                                  The CEO didn't steal enough! If he's stolen $100B, he might not have gotten sentenced to any time at all.

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                                  • felipeb@hachyderm.ioF felipeb@hachyderm.io

                                    @nogodsnomasters his crime was to feeling remorseful

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                                    #39

                                    @felipeB @nogodsnomasters And not wearing a suit while doing it and not stealing $3 billion more.

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