⚠️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI.
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@stux as much as I love the cool flashing emoji - I would ask if we can remove all the flashing ones we have on the instance?
I know I can also not use them myself anymore, but anyone on the instance opening the emoji picker would still be shown these.
I'd like everyone to be safe in doing so
Disclaimer; I have used some of these myself, and in the recent past as well. Sorry to anyone affected
I am not adding those on purpose indeed but i think a mod of us does, so ill talk to them
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️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:
️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emojiThere's more info on the condition itself at:
️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsyThis is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.
@FediTips This feels like a bug report, which is to say: Why is anybody animating images in posts by default?
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️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emoji
There's more info on the condition itself at:
️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsyThis is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.
@FediTips
Dang! I loved to use that fox-brain-explode emoji but never thought about that. Thank you vor the heads up. -
️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emoji
There's more info on the condition itself at:
️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsyThis is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.
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️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emoji
There's more info on the condition itself at:
️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsyThis is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.
@FediTips I've been looking to write free and open source software for detecting photosensitive epilepsy triggers (according to standards, of which there are MANY) with a group of students. its mad how the only option small creators have to find triggers in their videos are closed and paid.
watch chris spargo's video on it, honestly it is kind of wild.
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️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emoji
There's more info on the condition itself at:
️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsyThis is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.
@FediTips I’ve unfollowed everyone who does this except for one person, and hers are pale enough they’re not too bad, but I still have to scroll them offscreen or cover them with my finger to read her posts. #accessibility
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@FediTips This feels like a bug report, which is to say: Why is anybody animating images in posts by default?
I get what you're saying, but the problem is it's not just people on here who see these animations. Someone might share a web link to a post, or someone might be looking at a post on someone else's device, or using an app that doesn't have an option to stop animations etc.
It's probably safer to just avoid these appearing without a warning?
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️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emoji
There's more info on the condition itself at:
️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsyThis is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.
p.s. Someone asked what kind of flashing is dangerous, the following might be useful.
According to https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/seizure-triggers/photosensitive-epilepsy the frequencies are as follows:
10 to 25 Hz
Flash rate range that is most likely to cause a seizure in people with photosensitive epilepsy3 Hz
Slowest flash rate that could trigger a seizure for some people60 Hz
Fastest flash rate that could trigger a seizure for some people(Hz or Hertz is how many times a second the light is flashing)
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️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emoji
There's more info on the condition itself at:
️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsyThis is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.
@FediTips Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does 'flashing' include any emoji that is animated?
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@FediTips Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does 'flashing' include any emoji that is animated?
I am not an expert, but for example this epilepsy website describes it as:
"...caused by being exposed to flashing or flickering lights or high contrasting patterns."
"Some people are sensitive to geometric patterns with contrasts of light and dark such as stripes or bars."
As far as I can tell this means it happens with specific kinds of animation/movement rather than all animation.
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I am not an expert, but for example this epilepsy website describes it as:
"...caused by being exposed to flashing or flickering lights or high contrasting patterns."
"Some people are sensitive to geometric patterns with contrasts of light and dark such as stripes or bars."
As far as I can tell this means it happens with specific kinds of animation/movement rather than all animation.
@FediTips Thank you for sharing this! I frequently use animated emojis that might be fine but I'm not really sure, will be more thoughtful about using them.
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I am not an expert, but for example this epilepsy website describes it as:
"...caused by being exposed to flashing or flickering lights or high contrasting patterns."
"Some people are sensitive to geometric patterns with contrasts of light and dark such as stripes or bars."
As far as I can tell this means it happens with specific kinds of animation/movement rather than all animation.
@FediTips @buffyleigh One of the worst animated emoji for me is the one of a cat's head moving around quite fast, I believe? I think it has quick color changes too (flashy ones are the worst to me, but it depends on everyone), or maybe it's another one. "Glitch" aesthetic (don't know how to name it) is horrible for me, even when not animated
I have autoplay off for everything, but when I open in another tab and it isn't on my instance, it's sometimes animated. Which sometimes caused seizures.
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I get what you're saying, but the problem is it's not just people on here who see these animations. Someone might share a web link to a post, or someone might be looking at a post on someone else's device, or using an app that doesn't have an option to stop animations etc.
It's probably safer to just avoid these appearing without a warning?
@FediTips Yes, but what I really mean is: let’s do all of the above **including** building software which is safe by default. Nobody really **needs** animated GIFs. Defaulting to disabling them means most people won’t ever enable them. Safety is more important than dancing hamsters.
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@FediTips @buffyleigh One of the worst animated emoji for me is the one of a cat's head moving around quite fast, I believe? I think it has quick color changes too (flashy ones are the worst to me, but it depends on everyone), or maybe it's another one. "Glitch" aesthetic (don't know how to name it) is horrible for me, even when not animated
I have autoplay off for everything, but when I open in another tab and it isn't on my instance, it's sometimes animated. Which sometimes caused seizures.
@Testoceratops @FediTips Damn, that's horrible. So sorry you have to deal with that.
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@FediTips Yes, but what I really mean is: let’s do all of the above **including** building software which is safe by default. Nobody really **needs** animated GIFs. Defaulting to disabling them means most people won’t ever enable them. Safety is more important than dancing hamsters.
That's a fair point
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@Testoceratops @FediTips Damn, that's horrible. So sorry you have to deal with that.
@buffyleigh @FediTips I'm lucky enough to be able to spend a week without seizures sometimes, which is great.
When it happens a lot, well at least that's how I felt, you kinda get used to it. It remains exhausting, physically too even if there are no injuries. But when I haven't had one in a week, it feels worse somehow. Don't know if it's just me, though. Thank you for caring
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p.s. Someone asked what kind of flashing is dangerous, the following might be useful.
According to https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/seizure-triggers/photosensitive-epilepsy the frequencies are as follows:
10 to 25 Hz
Flash rate range that is most likely to cause a seizure in people with photosensitive epilepsy3 Hz
Slowest flash rate that could trigger a seizure for some people60 Hz
Fastest flash rate that could trigger a seizure for some people(Hz or Hertz is how many times a second the light is flashing)
Rise time is a factor too.
Thus Xenon strobes, camera flashes, and LEDs with the usual fast switching, are more troublesome than incandescent sources.
Car tail lights strobing with sharp risetimes at epileptic trigger frequencies are common.
Single flashes can precipitate seizures.
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p.s. Someone asked what kind of flashing is dangerous, the following might be useful.
According to https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/seizure-triggers/photosensitive-epilepsy the frequencies are as follows:
10 to 25 Hz
Flash rate range that is most likely to cause a seizure in people with photosensitive epilepsy3 Hz
Slowest flash rate that could trigger a seizure for some people60 Hz
Fastest flash rate that could trigger a seizure for some people(Hz or Hertz is how many times a second the light is flashing)
Note that 60Hz is also the refresh rate of most screens, so they aren't *capable* of displaying a flash that's too fast to trigger seizures.
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p.s. Someone asked what kind of flashing is dangerous, the following might be useful.
According to https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/seizure-triggers/photosensitive-epilepsy the frequencies are as follows:
10 to 25 Hz
Flash rate range that is most likely to cause a seizure in people with photosensitive epilepsy3 Hz
Slowest flash rate that could trigger a seizure for some people60 Hz
Fastest flash rate that could trigger a seizure for some people(Hz or Hertz is how many times a second the light is flashing)
I'm reminded of a GIF I once saw, from some people who were apparently *trying* to trigger photosensitive epilepsy in unsuspecting website viewers. For their own amusement, apparently. Jerks.
It was called “Epilepsi” (sic). Very rapid, very intense flashing. On that day, I found out that I'm not epileptic…the hard way!
