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  • eclinton@mas.toE eclinton@mas.to

    @anneroth @cavallette you need a source for a bold claim of this nature. This is likely false.

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    #11

    @eclinton @anneroth @cavallette There is a U.S. Department of the Treasury press release. Are you always this confidently wrong?

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    • spirit@cybernetic.monsterS spirit@cybernetic.monster

      @eclinton @anneroth @cavallette There is a U.S. Department of the Treasury press release. Are you always this confidently wrong?

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      #12

      @Spirit @anneroth @cavallette Surely you can provide a link to it then? 20,000 blogs?

      cavallette@mastodon.bida.imC spirit@cybernetic.monsterS automattack@counterforce.socialA 3 Replies Last reply
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      • eclinton@mas.toE eclinton@mas.to

        @Spirit @anneroth @cavallette Surely you can provide a link to it then? 20,000 blogs?

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        #13

        @eclinton @anneroth you want to access our database or is our internal stat good enough? They are 20k blogs on noblogs.org (actually a bit more than 22300)

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        • spirit@cybernetic.monsterS spirit@cybernetic.monster

          @eclinton @anneroth @cavallette There is a U.S. Department of the Treasury press release. Are you always this confidently wrong?

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          #14

          @Spirit @anneroth @cavallette is this what you are referring to?

          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doj-shuts-down-websites-that-spread-iranian-propaganda-threatened-dissidents-took-credit-for-hacks/

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          • draeath@infosec.exchangeD draeath@infosec.exchange

            @khleedril @anneroth @cavallette like extrajudicial. Meaning "outside of [thing]"

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            #15

            @draeath @anneroth @cavallette Yes, except in his imagination: more legal than just legal.

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            • eclinton@mas.toE eclinton@mas.to

              @Spirit @anneroth @cavallette Surely you can provide a link to it then? 20,000 blogs?

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              #16

              @eclinton @anneroth @cavallette it was closer to 7000-10000 from a scrapper this year. Not sure where the 20,000 comes from. Anyway read the Treasury press release. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616

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              • anneroth@systemli.socialA anneroth@systemli.social

                20,000 mail accounts.
                20,000 blogs.
                5,000 mailing lists.
                1,500 websites.

                In Europe.

                Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.

                Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.

                It is astonishingly quiet.

                ⁨#Autistici⁩

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                #17

                @anneroth @cavallette Not a judge, a court, or jury had anything to say about it.

                Europe is not sovereign, we are a client state of the USA.

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                • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

                  @anneroth @cavallette Europe should put "The Heritage Foundation" on the European terrorlist.

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                  #18

                  @fenixmaster
                  That seems perfectly justified.
                  @anneroth @cavallette

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                  • eclinton@mas.toE eclinton@mas.to

                    @Spirit @anneroth @cavallette Surely you can provide a link to it then? 20,000 blogs?

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                    #19

                    @eclinton @Spirit @anneroth @cavallette

                    https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/

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                    • spirit@cybernetic.monsterS spirit@cybernetic.monster

                      @eclinton @anneroth @cavallette it was closer to 7000-10000 from a scrapper this year. Not sure where the 20,000 comes from. Anyway read the Treasury press release. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616

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                      #20

                      @Spirit @anneroth @cavallette thank you.

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                      • eclinton@mas.toE eclinton@mas.to

                        @anneroth @cavallette you need a source for a bold claim of this nature. This is likely false.

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                        #21

                        @eclinton @anneroth @cavallette The post you’re replying to has many ”claims”, and you’re just making a sweeping statement about the post. Your post is just spreading disinformation.

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                        • anneroth@systemli.socialA anneroth@systemli.social

                          20,000 mail accounts.
                          20,000 blogs.
                          5,000 mailing lists.
                          1,500 websites.

                          In Europe.

                          Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.

                          Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.

                          It is astonishingly quiet.

                          ⁨#Autistici⁩

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                          #22

                          @anneroth @cavallette waiting out the infancy has done wonders for nobody.

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                          • anneroth@systemli.socialA anneroth@systemli.social

                            20,000 mail accounts.
                            20,000 blogs.
                            5,000 mailing lists.
                            1,500 websites.

                            In Europe.

                            Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.

                            Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.

                            It is astonishingly quiet.

                            ⁨#Autistici⁩

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                            #23

                            @anneroth @cavallette wow, diese Dimensionen waren mir nicht bewusst

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                            • eclinton@mas.toE eclinton@mas.to

                              @Spirit @anneroth @cavallette is this what you are referring to?

                              https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doj-shuts-down-websites-that-spread-iranian-propaganda-threatened-dissidents-took-credit-for-hacks/

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                              #24

                              @eclinton@mas.to

                              so

                              You're taking the US DOJ and the US DOT as credible sources for anything?

                              You've either been paying absolutely *no* attention to US politics over the last ten years, or you're a full-on #Trump #MAGA stan

                              Which is it?

                              cc @Spirit @anneroth @cavallette

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                              • anneroth@systemli.socialA anneroth@systemli.social

                                20,000 mail accounts.
                                20,000 blogs.
                                5,000 mailing lists.
                                1,500 websites.

                                In Europe.

                                Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.

                                Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.

                                It is astonishingly quiet.

                                ⁨#Autistici⁩

                                djsumdog@djsumdog.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #25
                                What happened? I don't see any articles on this. Did they just lose funding (and if so, why where they funded by the US if they were in the EU anyway?) or did something else happen? You have an article?
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                                • anneroth@systemli.socialA anneroth@systemli.social

                                  20,000 mail accounts.
                                  20,000 blogs.
                                  5,000 mailing lists.
                                  1,500 websites.

                                  In Europe.

                                  Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.

                                  Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.

                                  It is astonishingly quiet.

                                  ⁨#Autistici⁩

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                                  barbra@social.vivaldi.net
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                                  #26

                                  @anneroth @cavallette

                                  So set up an AlterNIC. It's been done before.

                                  Because even when the problem isn't DNS, it's ALWAYS DNS!

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                                  • djsumdog@djsumdog.comD djsumdog@djsumdog.com
                                    What happened? I don't see any articles on this. Did they just lose funding (and if so, why where they funded by the US if they were in the EU anyway?) or did something else happen? You have an article?
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                                    #27

                                    @djsumdog @cavallette @anneroth The US declaration of A/I as a terrorist group puts secondary sanctions on those companies that do business with them, from selling them DNS names to providing server space, network hookups, and bank accounts. Many companies won't want to risk those sanctions and will end their relationships.

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                                    • B barbra@social.vivaldi.net

                                      @anneroth @cavallette

                                      So set up an AlterNIC. It's been done before.

                                      Because even when the problem isn't DNS, it's ALWAYS DNS!

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                                      #28

                                      @barbra @anneroth @cavallette An alternate DNS root only helps to the extent that anyone uses it. Since few people use those, it's unlikely to help much. And the challenges are far wider than just losing DNS names: A/I will lose bank accounts, hosting space, and most other services provided by businesses at risk from US secondary sanctions on those doing business with A/I.

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                                      • D david42@mastodon.online

                                        @djsumdog @cavallette @anneroth The US declaration of A/I as a terrorist group puts secondary sanctions on those companies that do business with them, from selling them DNS names to providing server space, network hookups, and bank accounts. Many companies won't want to risk those sanctions and will end their relationships.

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                                        #29

                                        @david42 @djsumdog @cavallette @anneroth The team at @thenextweb has more info on how that is working in practice & how designating a group as a terrorist organization with no evidence essentially functions as a ban on free speech: https://thenextweb.com/news/autistici-inventati-shutdown-us-terrorist-designation

                                        The exact numbers of blogs, mailboxes, etc may vary, but if a government does it & other governments, banks, domain registrars, etc. cooperate, that incentivizes using it to go after political opponents (which is authoritarian, by definition)

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                                        • D david42@mastodon.online

                                          @barbra @anneroth @cavallette An alternate DNS root only helps to the extent that anyone uses it. Since few people use those, it's unlikely to help much. And the challenges are far wider than just losing DNS names: A/I will lose bank accounts, hosting space, and most other services provided by businesses at risk from US secondary sanctions on those doing business with A/I.

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                                          barbra@social.vivaldi.net
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                                          #30

                                          @david42 @anneroth @cavallette

                                          Sure there's a problem with uptake.

                                          But it's the only way to get out from under the US boot on our collective necks.

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