I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
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@sundogplanets I would point out that you did not give them permission to share your work with AI, and they have effectively allowed the AI to learn from your work, which is unacceptable without prior consent And tell them you will never ask them to review anything ever again, because if you'd wanted your work fed to the slop machine, you could have done that yourself.
@ravenbait Yeah I will DEFINITELY point out that part. I have to think about how to say it politely so it doesn't just bounce off their brain.
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@sundogplanets I would point out that you did not give them permission to share your work with AI, and they have effectively allowed the AI to learn from your work, which is unacceptable without prior consent And tell them you will never ask them to review anything ever again, because if you'd wanted your work fed to the slop machine, you could have done that yourself.
@ravenbait @sundogplanets ^^^ This!
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@sundogplanets I would point out that you did not give them permission to share your work with AI, and they have effectively allowed the AI to learn from your work, which is unacceptable without prior consent And tell them you will never ask them to review anything ever again, because if you'd wanted your work fed to the slop machine, you could have done that yourself.
@ravenbait @sundogplanets
Copied. The LLMs do not learn nor are they trained. It's an abuse of English by PR/Marketing. -
I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.
I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.
@sundogplanets Send it back with a big red "F" on it. "You failed the assignment."
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@sundogplanets I would point out that you did not give them permission to share your work with AI, and they have effectively allowed the AI to learn from your work, which is unacceptable without prior consent And tell them you will never ask them to review anything ever again, because if you'd wanted your work fed to the slop machine, you could have done that yourself.
@ravenbait @sundogplanets
Either that or simply ignore them. -
I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.
I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.
@sundogplanets Use ChatGPT to write your reply in the style of Mark Twain?
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@ravenbait Yeah I will DEFINITELY point out that part. I have to think about how to say it politely so it doesn't just bounce off their brain.
@sundogplanets @ravenbait super cliché but "I statements" work wonders. They don't have to understand your reasoning, but they need to be able to respect your strong feelings in order to have a relationship with you.
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I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.
I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.
@sundogplanets It seems to me to be the mental activity version of this:
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@ravenbait Yeah I will DEFINITELY point out that part. I have to think about how to say it politely so it doesn't just bounce off their brain.
@sundogplanets @ravenbait I'm wondering if we shouldn't put an explicit clause at the beginning of all our emails with an attachment -- "this is copyrighted material, please do not feed any of the content or attachments of this email into an AI"
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I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.
I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.
I do think it’s worth a comment.
You might say you asked them for their advice, you could have sent to to ChatGPT yourself, you were looking for their expertise. You’d have understood if they were too busy. Maybe also they’ve trained their agent in some way that they think is value added.
Also comment that you worry of opening yourself to plagiarism if chat gpt accidentally copied from another source.
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I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.
I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.
@sundogplanets holy shit
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I do think it’s worth a comment.
You might say you asked them for their advice, you could have sent to to ChatGPT yourself, you were looking for their expertise. You’d have understood if they were too busy. Maybe also they’ve trained their agent in some way that they think is value added.
Also comment that you worry of opening yourself to plagiarism if chat gpt accidentally copied from another source.
@MCDuncanLab This is very helpful, thank you.
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I do think it’s worth a comment.
You might say you asked them for their advice, you could have sent to to ChatGPT yourself, you were looking for their expertise. You’d have understood if they were too busy. Maybe also they’ve trained their agent in some way that they think is value added.
Also comment that you worry of opening yourself to plagiarism if chat gpt accidentally copied from another source.
Also worried about intellectual theft, cite all the math papers where people think amthtopic stole ideas from private sessions,
Worried about environmental impact.
I also agree with @iris that I statements are useful here.
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@ravenbait Yeah I will DEFINITELY point out that part. I have to think about how to say it politely so it doesn't just bounce off their brain.
@sundogplanets I've already been scolded at work for being mean about AI, so I'm probably the wrong person to expect to react politely!
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I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.
I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.
@sundogplanets my answer to that would probably be something like : "Do you think that I need you to use ChatGPT ? If I wanted ChatGPT output, I would have done it myself. I asked because I value your point of view, if you don't have the time it's fine, just say so. But don't send me chatbot output, that's just rude."
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I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.
I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.
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I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.
I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.
@sundogplanets for every employer/client, this indiscretion would've been an "instant firing & getting sued for damages" kind of #InfoSec incident.
- People like that who can't be assed to think themselves should not be allowed to work anyway anywhere because they likely have 0 survival instincts or self-preservation will…
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@sundogplanets @ravenbait I'm wondering if we shouldn't put an explicit clause at the beginning of all our emails with an attachment -- "this is copyrighted material, please do not feed any of the content or attachments of this email into an AI"
@sundogplanets @ravenbait Actually, scratch that. I'm going to do it from now on. Thanks for the wake-up call.
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I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.
I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.
@sundogplanets This is why I am no longer sending any pictures of my offspring to anyone, not even family.
I do not know what AI agents are enabled on their devices and I do not know which LLM based service the recipient might feed the images of my offspring into.
It doesn't matter if it is done deliberately or if it is done inadvertently.
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I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.
Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.
I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.
@sundogplanets
"Apologize", I.e., I'm sorry, I should have made it clear that I was looking for thoughtful feedback from a human I respect, not a bunch of words that approximate human language emitted by an algorithm that I do not respect at all.Also, spend as little time and thought on it as you can spare, because that's what your colleague offered you.
