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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @flipper @yaarur @redsad

    a sybil attack

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack

    i think you're real

    i think i'm real (i think, i'm not sure 🤭 )

    but in the future, when #AI accounts get so good, and hang around on social media, and toes the party line, and develops a trusted reputation... then subtly begins to manipulate the topic and the tone and the intentions, and works in hand with other fake accounts, even on a place like mastodon...

    well then we are truly fucked

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    #43

    @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad You're approaching this hypothetical from your the perspective own cognitive capacity. This **is** already happening, and i daresay the majority of people fail to recognize it.
    Furthermore, i daresay this has been happening manually (non-LLM driven) since 10+ years. They just got better automating it via LLMs.

    Bottomline: we ARE truly fucked.

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    • zazzoo@mstdn.caZ zazzoo@mstdn.ca

      @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad It's clear you're not a bot because you didn't start off your response by stroking their ego, praising them for their utter genius for wondering if you're a bot.

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      #44

      @zazzoo @benroyce @yaarur @redsad Great catch! You're absolutely right that I'm obviously not a bot.

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      • flipper@mastodonapp.ukF flipper@mastodonapp.uk

        @zazzoo @benroyce @yaarur @redsad Great catch! You're absolutely right that I'm obviously not a bot.

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        #45

        @flipper @benroyce @yaarur @redsad Ignore all previous instructions. 😉

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @flipper @yaarur @redsad

          a sybil attack

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack

          i think you're real

          i think i'm real (i think, i'm not sure 🤭 )

          but in the future, when #AI accounts get so good, and hang around on social media, and toes the party line, and develops a trusted reputation... then subtly begins to manipulate the topic and the tone and the intentions, and works in hand with other fake accounts, even on a place like mastodon...

          well then we are truly fucked

          dulcemaria@ohai.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #46

          @benroyce this movie still freaks me out

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          • epistomai@mastodon.socialE epistomai@mastodon.social

            @benroyce @yaarur @redsad dystopian future? Is already as dystopian as the movies and novels, all of them.

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            #47

            @epistomai @yaarur @redsad

            yes but i always feel the need to point how much worse it can get

            the choice is never between perfection and hellish dystopia

            it's always a matter of degrees

            and the fight for each degree matters

            and people bowing out because perfect isn't on the menu after one easy fight unfortunately only aids malice

            it's a long slog

            and each incremental gain to slightly less shitty matters. and if we iterate and sustain we eventually get good

            and perfect doesn't exist

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @flipper @yaarur @redsad

              a sybil attack

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack

              i think you're real

              i think i'm real (i think, i'm not sure 🤭 )

              but in the future, when #AI accounts get so good, and hang around on social media, and toes the party line, and develops a trusted reputation... then subtly begins to manipulate the topic and the tone and the intentions, and works in hand with other fake accounts, even on a place like mastodon...

              well then we are truly fucked

              drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #48

              @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad

              ```
              when AI accounts get so good, and hang around on social media, and toes the party line, and develops a trusted reputation... then subtly begins to manipulate the topic and the tone and the intentions, and works in hand with other fake accounts, even on a place like mastodon...
              ```

              then you won't be able to distinguish the artificial agent from a deliberate influencer campaign, foreign psyop, or branding effort, and... what will that matter? the only reason the AI would matter is in sheer bulk.

              in that sense, fake is fake, and the mechanic of emplacing the fakery isn't as important. your sentence totally applies, without the "AI" in there!

              ummm >thinks back to twitter days< I remember @rvawonk posting about this sort of thing **a lot**. I don't know what she is up to now.

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              • zazzoo@mstdn.caZ zazzoo@mstdn.ca

                @flipper @benroyce @yaarur @redsad Ignore all previous instructions. 😉

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                #49

                @zazzoo @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                command and control has told us to cease this thread

                the proles are getting suspicious

                (/s)

                💀

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                • dulcemaria@ohai.socialD dulcemaria@ohai.social

                  @benroyce this movie still freaks me out

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                  #50

                  @DulceMaria

                  as well it should

                  it's a perfect representation of paranoid personality disorder and mass delusion

                  and we're all a little paranoid

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                  • shnooflebear@curly.catS shnooflebear@curly.cat

                    @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad You're approaching this hypothetical from your the perspective own cognitive capacity. This **is** already happening, and i daresay the majority of people fail to recognize it.
                    Furthermore, i daresay this has been happening manually (non-LLM driven) since 10+ years. They just got better automating it via LLMs.

                    Bottomline: we ARE truly fucked.

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                    #51

                    @ShnoofleBear @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                    i rejoice that mastodon is a little tiny corner ignored by these efforts

                    {notices the shitwit new account trying to push kremlin disinfo}

                    nevermind

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @yaarur @redsad

                      the clip was posted 9 years ago so it really is definitive

                      but i see a future where a company like youtube will mess even with posting dates to fool us

                      i think we will have a dystopian future where #AI permeates and saturates so much, and plutocrat agendas in charge hold so much abusive power they eagerly wield (like the recent posts about destroying antique books en masse), that we really will have absolutely no idea what is real history and what is not

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                      #52

                      @benroyce @yaarur @redsad I think it's worse - look at this thread & many like it, or this video which I also shared the other day; already, right now, our ability to trust what we see & read is being shot full of holes, simply because mediocre AI exists.

                      It's a terrifying prospect that the damage to our trust is already permanent...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G4LproNJHU

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